+ 2 Shit is going down
After just reading about a certain sources page being hacked, the several recent busts internationally and domestically in the US, and a top source removing his SI I have to say I am alarmed at the least and nervous as hell at worst. Of course these guys need to protect themselves from LE because it seems like the stakes are being raised for those playing in the aas game so in no way do I fault the actions of those trying to protect themselves. They may not be targeting end users but that's almost always how the big guy goes down. A customer gets snagged and rats on the source then the government gets their hackers on the sources site to try and figure out who the mastermind is and where and who the administrator for the server is. The government has unlimited resources so if anyone thinks this isn't happening then think again. They have MIT grads working on this shit!! What the feds don't get is that many of the domestic, and international sources actually go out of their way to make sure their product is sterile and okay for injection or consumption. If they keep busting these guys it opens the door for smaller less sophisticated operators to put out bunk, unsafe gears. The question remains...why the fuck are they going after aas sources when testosterone is prescribed by doctors and generally okay for human consumption. Moreover I know several state troopers and cops who USE IT THEMSELVES! What a joke. It boggles the mind the amount of time and resources they are plowing into this war on aas and that's exactly what it is.
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We cannot forget also Big Pharma does not want UGL's taking a share of the market. Demand is clearly high, and Pharma companies are more than happy pumping more product into the market for sale...regardless if its legal in the country or not. UGL takes a piece of that pie....no bueno.
Pharma companies are also campaign donors. They want their candidates helping them out. Clearing the streets of UGL's certainly help their pockets.
So many factors why these things happen, and election time is certainly a big one.
Bro, the big international UGLs are not even UGLs. They have pharmaceutical level production and buildings in office parks and the owners drive their luxury cars and park in assigned spaces. What they are doing is not illegal in the country of origin. They pay huge tax bills like any other business.
The only issue we have is that it is illegal to import their product into the US. But mind you, foreign governments are less than entertained by our feds trying to strong arm them into changing their own laws. Not going to happen.
Also, their is not a wave of crime our government can attach to the purchase and import of PEDs. It doesn't have the glitz and glimmer of the "war on street drugs."
Nor is our government in a position to shut down websites in foreign jurisdictions so easily either. I'm surprised there is as much domestic production of PEDs as there is. You just can't build pharm grade automation and clean production in the US because it's illegal.
I think 4 or 5 of the oldest and biggest steroid manufacturing businesses are in 1 country. Millions of customers in 40 or 50 countries collectively. I don't see our politicians having any material impact on any of this. The country I'm thinking of doesn't get a lot of foreign aid from the US anyways. Nothing to really threaten them with. LOL
But, we are going into an election cycle and it is time once again for lots of speeches. Meaningless ineffective and pointless speeches but they will make their way into the news cycle.
It's called "drugs on the table". Cops and politicians look for a photo op and drugs on the table always play well, regardless of the "drug".
RustyhookerIt's a voting year. Folks controlling your lives with political greed, are striving for news headlines.
Laws change every sept and run to aug. GOP has an initiative that started with MR and his candidacy targeting PEDs...nothin lasts forever...not even a sain society...look what Bill's wife is going thru...politics and bureaucracy rulz this 3rd rock from the sun...always have an exit strategy....
What Bill's wife is going through? You mean the FBI investigation? Show knowingly broke the law, lied about it, then cleaned the server after she was told to hand it over.... If we did that, we'd be in jail by now. We're just supposed to believe, she only deleted personal emails... Right...
You are up in the night if you think this is an isolated charge by the GOP. The dems are charging just as hard. Barry, Joe and co use the juice as a scapegoat as do the republicans when they can't get shit done anywhere else. Joe B has been fighting steroids since he was a young senator.
Biden helped make roids illegal. Democrats push even harder for restrictions. Idk why, but these days liberals LOVE government regulation, and control. It's all about riding on the back of pro sports popularity, not protecting the public.
In countries not as sports obsessed, PEDS are legal. It's even legal to posses in the U.K.
Makes sense...i dont doubt it, either...especially when they cant get shit done....they will get tired of bumpin into each other...then say fuck it....its a lost cause....
It seems that the steroid fight is one of the few things both sides of the isle can agree on. Take the new DASCA law for example. Introduced by a republican, endorced by the dems and singed into law by Obama. All championing the new found control.
But yet if a chick wants to be a dude....by all means give her some juice. It's her right to be whatever she wants. It's fricken ridiculous.
RustyhookerControl. Folks can't see the socialist agenda and that's scary. Squeeze into our homes, for our protection.
I wish someone would act like Trump, and be blunt about this topic. I'd like to see what he has to say on it. As the people grow more libertarian, or government is becomes more authoritarian.
rocketballzThat's a great point man. I wonder what dose of test chaz bono was on?
That last statement...damn...smh at the hypocrisy of society. I love this country but dammit it pisses me off at the same time...
Because it's a schedule III controlled substance, sure it's prescribed by doctors but 95% of the people who use it do not need it for its intended purpose I know I didnt. Same as pain killers people don't need it but take it anyway and that's prescribed as well
Yep...agree...and this is the whole essence of their case, especially if no scripts are involed.
rocketballzMy point is that heroin and pain killers are an epidemic because of overdosing and the crimes committed by the users. AAS doesn't strike me as that important of a problem, but apparently it is. Thanks for replying bro
Aas isn't the problem. It's the scapegoat. The cartels pushing kilos and caps up north have no electronic trail. They bust a small dealer and 100 more are right there killing our kids. They can't win that war. By a long shot. So they need a smokescreen to push for more funding when the next fuck up takes office. Numbers matter. Headlines matter. What doesn't matter is what chemical or drug it is. Marijuana isn't the big deal it was. They've lost that. It's becoming legal in more and more states. So if we see a headline saying a truckload of weed was taken, nobody gives a fuck. We know it's a waste of our money. But the public holds ( and possibly always will) steroids in a negative light. So on paper they're accomplishing something to generate more funding. As with everything, it's about money.
As far as it being the left, or the right, the socialists or the commies, bullshit. It doesn't matter. They need headlines for more money
rocketballzIt always comes down to the money!!
Its really not, especially here because safety is preached on day after day. Only time ignorant politicians want to get in on something is when they feel like they have enough evidence to win. Reminds me of a bunch of kids picking sides cuz they are all friends...
evoal2003Just seems to go around in circles. Quiet for months and then all hell breaks loose for a while
Its about money, politics and bureaucracy....and id versus ego....
rocketballzI think get in get out at various points over time is the way to longevity. Like bobbin and weavin. There was a domestic pct guy who did just that. He sold pharma pct domestically and then sent all his customers an email saying he was calling it quite but that he might be badk. He probably made $1M and called it quits. Some guys just succumb to greed.
Shit is a little crazy I agree but I'm not sure if a customer ratting would do much of anything if the source did the right things protecting his identity.
I agree....big fish submerges deeper to the depths of the unfathomable and cant be seen. Takes more $$$ and more time to catch. The next target...innocent people, not hurting anyone...minding their own business...who have a shit load and a ton more to lose....always a possibility when the laws and drug routes changes. Computers have changed interstate commerce. But u feel and see new changes, whether positive/negatvie, when u have closer ties to questionable activities of daily living.
Tracking Numbers on donations to find out which ATMs are being withdrawn from and the video from the cameras at the ATMs. Hoping to develop patterns so they can follow the source to his home/lab.
Well Idon't wanna give them any ideas but I'm pretty sure they get way more info on their own than they could get from some buyer/snitch.
TronWhy don't you have an avi pic?
Seems kinda pointless.
TronOkay.
we have regular members on here who are cops, 2 i know of level 3 or above.
So what? The cops that are here that we do know about seem pretty obvious in their use of gear. The Feds if they are, we won't know about. If they are running an investigation they will be smarter than that.
Wouldn't surprise me at all.