+ 12 Wtf has happened to Eroids?
I used to stay pretty active here and spent a lot of time in the logs. For the last year or so, I've been on the road chasing jobs, so I've not been on much. All work no play gets old.
Since I've been back I've noticed a lot of things changed. Names are different. People have left. Tolerated age groups for giving advice have changed.
Biggest thing I've noticed is the quality of the advice.. For example, parroting is something that will always be part of any forum. Although I can't stand the shit, it is what it is. Problem is that most of the bird chirping comes for inexperienced guys wanting to gain experience and sound like they know wtf they're doing.
Generally the parroted advice is pretty general with shit like AI and hcg doses. It's bad enough we have dudes on their first cycle trying to tell folks they should blast hcg during pct and rectally administer their orals bc they kick harder. But when did we star telling these guys it's ok to add more than one new compound to their second cycle? Or even worse, that it's ok to not use an AI unless they need to??
Browsing the cycle logs, I see a guy popping up on every one of them. Telling folks how they should run dbol, Tbol, hcg, AI's etc. Then I come across his own log. He's on his first cycle of test only... Never touched dbol, Tbol, hcg, and hardly even knows how to use an AI. No big deal right? He's just trying to help... But then I see his draft for second cycle. 3 new compounds and no AI. I ask wtf? His answer was that this is what he was advised by some higher level members; multiple new compounds and substitute his AI for proviron.
Did I miss the fkn memo??
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The surprise for me here is that Doss is seeing the community advise adding compounds, removing AI's and such and when I work the cycle logs, what I always see is it is the OP that is off his rocker.
Right! And when it does happen the OP generally gets gang piled within minutes.
I'm happy to take a harder line with bullshut advice if you and the mod team are happy to mop up the mess left behind!
If that's what you want, I have ZERO issue with calling it the way I see it.
Your choice... but that approach will have you in the same place as me!............. HATED!!
I think this has to happen.I feel like sometimes people in here are too nice. You can get a point across without being an ass, but I see people sugar coat everything like they are talking to toddlers. I think it's a bit much, if someone is being stupid calling them out on it should be priority one. Of course this doesn't mean 100 people call them out, but someone should.
I think people assume it's ok it's only one thread or one guy, but the reality is everything on this site gets looked at. Not everyone asks questions some just read it and think it's good to go. If there's bunk info it needs to be dealt with. I spend a lot of time reading through old threads (more than I should really lol) I've noticed a lot of complete BS. I'm guessing because it's old no one cares, but if I can hit the search button and read through them so can everyone else. (Even non members I think) So being on top of it now will just help clean it up for good.
and this is exactly the basis of my arguement here. misguided and misinterpretted information sets off a chain reaction. just like with the examples i used in the topic post.
guy heres from someone he feels is a vet that a 10 day hcg blast is beneficial to pct, so the guy starts advising on it. not that it will hurt, but the general idea with this approach is for long term shutdown or to attempt a reboot after an ineffective pct. not really ideal for 12 week test only cycle. and the key things he misses or isn't told is that hcg converts to estrogen.
or, IMO even worse, is the idea of using DHT's like masteron or proviron over an AI with 750 mg test, dbol, and hcg (3 aromatizing compounds). And let's keep in mind that he's still running his first cycle.
Theses are just a couple examples, but the shit happens on the regular. And not to dispute that all of them are either good or bad advice in and of themselves. But rather that it's not good advice for everyone. We preach more is not better here, but in the examples above, look at the behavior. First time cycler, runs proper first cycle. Next cycle, he adds essentlially 3 new compounds and tries an advanced tactic for substituting an AI with DHT's. What's the 3rd cycle gonna look like? tren or deca and subbing a dop-ag for T3?
Point im making is the same as yours: people read shit and think it's a good idea. most of the time not getting all the information. some times people have to be protected from themselves and be taught to climb a ladder from the bottom to the top one rung at a time, not from the middle and skipping rungs along the way.
I was a member quietly reading forums long before I made a comment or ordered gear. One of the first things I noticed and how the parroted advice outweighs the real thing. I sorted it out no problem but that's because I read a lot. I didn't pay much attention to karma at the time, and I still do not now. I looked for members who had the body I wanted to attain. I found none, lol but that's because I'm a weirdo.
If everyone paid more attention, and researched on their own it wouldn't be an issue. But since the majority of humans are looking for some quick validation of their already bad ideas it is an issue. So if I'm Mr. Fuzumballs from bubblefuck town and I start a thread asking about running 2000mg of tren E with a DNP kicker and a few guys tell me I'm g2g because their friends, brothers, uncle did it then you bet I'm doing it too! The internet said I could!
The thing with karma I do not understand is, I do not think it is meant to represent a persons knowledge on steroids. If that's the case the tags should be changed. I don't think a person should have the "expert" tag unless they are an expert. The levels could just continue indefinitely until the MODs deems someone worthy of an "expert" tag. How many expert and above members are there? Is it too much work for the 4 MODS we have? Is there anything above expert?
Karma shouldn't reflect level of expertise bottom line! The tags that ppl wear are mostly undeserved. The other problem arises ,who is to say that someone is an expert or advanced in any way? Being able to comprehend the things you read shouldn't be a determining factor either. How long has someone used AAS? How can they prove it? Well their physique for one. A test on the spot conducted by an expert member in which the person being tested has 30 seconds to reply so there is no digging through google for an answer. Or setting up questions that can't be answered by google. Some will say "well we all have different goals so how can a pic determine level of expertise. Well someone with a serious physique speaks for themselves. Ppl who claim to have different goals , well what strides have you made then? Let's see some before and after pics. Or pics of progress at all. There are a bunch of ways to decide these things. But I'm sick of ppl parroting information that they read and making it a notch in their belt because they had the wit to post it under their name. It's rubbish and isn't worth the virtual paper it's written on. We will find some kind of way to do this correctly
Hey Catalyst ,..see how I used the word "rubbish" in there? That's a shout out to my home boy in the UK!
"Rubbish" - my young Jedi.....
Now if you can just get you calling everyone mate, my work here will be done lol!
+1 I like where your going with this nitti
totally agree. i personally think anything about lvl 3 tag should be voted on and awarded by the admin team rather than automatically awarded for karma level. but, that would mean more work for them. i've had a small glimpse at what mods have to deal with on a daily basis, so i know they have their hands full.
I'm with ya, my tag can say whatever. Maybe instead of worrying about the entire karma system they should drop the tags all together, unless it's a tag that has clearly been earned. If it's too much work for the MODS I'll volunteer, I broke my foot I've got nothing but time lol
i saw that. sux.. saw you were looking into some hgh topics. not trying to push it but it could be a viable option for a quick recovery. there's plenty of case studies to support the benefits and affects on bone density. i do most of my research using google scholar
http://scholar.google.com/
nothing but scholarly articles and case studies. hope you get better soon
It certainly couldn't hurt
Thanks.
You know I got your back! I have no problem calling out foolguese info from foolguese members! Regardless of their sport, gender , age, time in on eroids or any other irrelevant factor. Bottom line ,if they haven't lived it. They have no right to speak it as if it were set in stone by the gods!
Message received and understood big fella.
Glad to hear. Thanks for the stickies in the group big dog
No problem homie! Good to see you active again.
Nice post Doss! Good to see you back. You know I've always been a fan brotha. The place definitely does better with bros like you around keeping shit real.
+2. No homo.
Thanks brother. Kinda missed them funny ass posts of yours.
The quality of eroids have definitely depreciated over the last 6 months or so. Alot of the post are repetitive and redundant. New members that been here a couple months got advanced tags get cocky and feel like they know it all. But it is what it is bruh, its the fcking internet! I'd rather sit like a fly on the wall and watch from a distance now and days! Its like the Og's fell back and let the freshman take the rains. A couple of new cats are cool though, irongame and birdbear to name a couple I'm in the gym daily fcking killing the weights, in the end I come out victorious regardless. I will leave the Lime light to others and remain like a silent assassin, getting my info and educating through pm. I'd rather put my work in the kitchen and gym than worrying about monkey business on the internet.
This is very true. The most recent example being the dozen or so posts on PIP.
This is what happens Doss; some of the members here wear you out and they do it on purpose for whatever reason (impressing internet friends?) So a lot of the old timers get frustrated and just drop off the grid. When they do drop it opens the floodgates to the inexperienced or the 3 cycle experts to come out and either Parrot or cosign shit. I hardly post anymore and when I come back I just get my wtf reaction because its not worth getting frustrated over anymore. For example I found out one of the members here goes to my friends gym and after reading the advice they give on this site and all the karma they get from their parroting; then seeing what their body looks like I shook my head and almost snapped my neck. Take it for what it's worth it is the internet and full of anonymity. Keep fighting the good fight and keep your head high in the clouds brother.
Interesting reading throughout this thread......................
All i have to say is don't get too perturbed guys its only the internet...... i do agree it has gone a little crazy lately but at the end of the day we all should be more concerned about the Solo Missions we are undertaking..... complete commitment,focus, and concentration into our own goals instead of worrying about someone else...... i gave up giving steroid advice way back and only concentrate now on food issues and training, it seems that is the safest option to keep your head off the chopping block with all the differing opinions around here about age, experience etc etc etc....... some kid thinks he knows more than me that's fine! i don't let it get under my skin, i just sit back and wait for some results to be shown (which is very rare).... i watch progress and results occur on a daily basis with my real life clients instead of wasting my time with some clown on the internet who usually reverses all info given to him and makes a fkn dogs dinner out of any good advice or positive direction given then ultimately fails to master his original goal.
Some fool called me a "Has Been" yesterday... well that's fine by me!.. i would rather be classed as that (which actually holds some credence) than an "Also Ran" or "Never Ran"..... the fool did give me a compliment strangely, by saying he hopes he can have a body like mine when he is my age lol..... something tells me he wont because he wont be alive!! but that's another story for another day :))
I truly hope that guys can find some level ground to play on because this problem is nothing that Admin or Mods can rectify............ it is simply a matter of quality members which we seem to be lacking at the moment.
This place is like a wild west bar with a swing door "anybody can walk in at any time "...... constantly being a FREE site there is no way we can control who walks through that swing door so human nature depicts a bar fight will be imminent on a Frequent and regular basis.
Great post, but I do disagree on the quality members. There are still a ton of good guys here and some of them have been much more active lately. Sure there are some notables missing from the lineup but hopefully they make their return soon. It is the internet, people come and go, people change.
You are right tho that Admin cannot fix it and we should be consumed first and foremost with our own saga.
Sorry for not being clearer............ i meant the ones who are unable to act correctly when engaging in the forums, or the guy who drops his sack of 5000 D/bols on the floor and says " this is my cycle co-sign me!!"
I don't know Doss, has it changed that much? Didn't we always have these issues, inexperienced people becoming experts after 2 cycles? Parroting information just to gain Karma etc has always been prevalent. I think the 25 thing has become more black and white than it was, but I'm not sure it's inherently different.
Maybe your break has made it more obvious to you or maybe it's a subtle thing that I've barely noticed creeping up?
Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just seeing it more lately and letting it aggravate me more easily. Who knows... I'm good for at least one rant every few months. Lol. I'll try to save them for when they really count. Like my next blast (tren/mast). Haha
They don't count as rants on tren, they're "part of the cycle" lol.
I do hear you Doss, but there is so many off these posts popping up about how poor things are but there doesn't seem to be too much positivity towards the army of good guys shutting these idiots down immediately and providing solid safe advice and keeping theses crazy fucks in order. I know undoubtably you are that guy in there putting out fires on the daily.
I hear you too bro and I appreciate that.
Tink22Wait so I should use an ai even if I don't need it?
Only if you crush it up, dissolve it in vinegar, and inject in anally. With a turkey baster...
Ouch!
Benny BlancoTrust me, you'll learn to love it.
A syphon hose then?
Well, Doss, I've only been here as long as you have been inactive. So, I don't have the perspective of what eroids was. I've been using for 16 years and I really like the subject matter. If there was ever a time when eroids had 30-40 active steroid veterans helping out and giving advice, it must have been absolutely awesome. Now there are only a handful of long term users that work the forums and the cycle logs. It's really not enough to give great customized help to people that desperately need it. If I had a solution, I wouldn't hold back but I don't, unfortunately.
Ok I'm not sure why exaaactly but someone said shove a stick of butter up your ass and I'm assuming something good will happen. Ok I did ...... So now what???? It's uncomfortable so please be speedy with your response I feel like I'm making fudge up in there........
To get the full benefit of the butter stick method you need to leave the stick in your ass for the duration of your workout only then can you benefit from the increased nitric oxide, mind blowing pumps and increased energy
Lol Ok I guess but it's already like a muddy river back there!...... It's always fun to offer some comedic relief to an other wise heated thread......
Lmao yea it's good to see there are some calm and collected people around here who don't get pissy about every little thing. Honestly if people were open minded about everything there wouldnt be any arguements all over the site. Take the advice and use it or don't it's all up to you nothing needs to be proven to anyone
Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good debate on not tabu but not necessarily agreed on topics. But some stuff is just nonsense and merely a point of view possibly even a rant....
Yea I hear ya
Orals in the ass lol. Never tried it....
You gotta crush them up and mix them in with summers Eve douche water. I like the vinegar kind. Gives a whiskey type burn on the way up.
Interesting! Just a question but have you ever felt...... Not so fresh?
Only when my finger slips...
Dammit I keep negging people because my phone is efffed up.... It's got a line right down the middle of it that doesn't respond so when I try to hit reply it negs you. Then you can't take it back so your only recourse is to plus 1. Anyways I assumed that you were old enough to remember that stupid massengil douche commercial but after looking at your stats they're not filled out like they're supposed to be. One of the newer rules is to have legitimate stats up.....
Haha. I'm old enough. Trust me. There will only be so much personal info of mine posted on a forum like this. So it is what it is
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