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Has anybody used Increlex? Pharma grade IGF-1 .. Not Lr3. Mecasermin, which is what they call it (just like they call HGH somatropin)

The reason I'm asking, is because the website has insane doses for these kids on there but I guess they need that much. It's prescribed for extreme idiopathic short stature I believe .. It's for very short kids, when HGH won't even work.

I know someone else who has used it and the doses they used but just looking for multiple perspectives on it. I'm sure the doses are meant to be different from Lr3

This stuff can make u go hypo like slin very strong, as long as u eat around your injections you're good tho that's what the site says must be taken with food. I mean this stuff has to be near impossible to get but I MAY have someone (locally) who can get it so I'm just doing all the research I can on it. This may be a once in a lifetime thing to be able to use Pharma grade IGF-1 and even then not sure he can get it anymore. It comes in 10ml liquid vials.

Anyways, feedback appreciated thx

ashop's picture

Should be very good IGF1 if you can find it.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

OK thats it............... 2nd post same shit!.. this is classic spamming and you looking for business..... FUCK YOU.

Increlexinos's picture

Eat shit you fucking sack of shit viking ... Small little bitch eat shit ... Stupid fucking dumb little shit ahahhahaha ...

Dacky's picture

Get to fuck darkharry -2

sssafa3's picture

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irongame427's picture

Haven't personally used it but I know all about it. Brand name increlex comes in a 4ml vial and it's 10mg per ml. Crazy compared to the stuff we buy from these research companies. 40mg per vial. But ya the dosing is crazy I think the highest dose that is recommended and has been studied and confirmed "safe" is .12mg per kg twice a day. So a kid that weighs 50kg coild be taking 6mg twice a day! That's crazy compared to what we would use. But that's honestly what creates monsters in bodybuilding along with gh and one other drug that has great synergy with those to that I won't name. If you can find that stuff buy some, if it's real it's extremely expensive. Not sure what else I can say about it other then if you use the right dose the pumps will literally be so painful you will have to stop workin out. If you think 50mcg bi laterally of des produces pumps this shit is on another level.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

You are seriously a fkn junkie for this shit arnt you man.......... i have the feeling you are gonna fuck yourself up real bad in the future if you dont get a grip of yourself.

Just my o2

MAC's picture

Ya man i know what you mean about the 3 hormones that create monsters. Ive used 2 of them but only GH now, the increlex actually fell through i knew it was too good to be true.. I also heard it is extremely expensive. Thanks for the info tho. I guess we are just gna have to stick with GH! im ok with that tho lol

sssafa3's picture

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irongame427's picture

I actually saw someone post a pic of it on here. I regret not remembering who it was and what source it was from. And ya i think you'll be good with just gh. I cant wait to try gh, I'm hoping i can start collecting this fall for a 6 month run in the spring.

Catalyst's picture

I did a bit of reading about this earlier at work. It will be seriously expensive, I'm talking at 4-5 times the cost of pharma hgh to manufacture. You can probably double that by the time it hits the "streets".

irongame427's picture

Ive looked all over the place for this stuff. Cant find it anywhere. But mecasermin is not lr3 or des. I don't know what the hell it is. Not alot of info on it. But I would assume since it comes in a 40mg vial, and its pharm grade, it would be extremely expensive. Think about the cost of 40 vials of des or lr3 from a research company, now times it by 2 to 4. Thats 10 grand lol. Shit better turn me into a monster for that kinda price.

MAC's picture

it is VERY expensive. like $1,500 per vial and thats probably a good price lol.

Mecasermin is not IGF-1 Lr3 or DES, correct. It's better. It is what "somatropin" is to our body's natural GH, mecasermin is synthetic bioidentical IGF-1.

IGF-Lr3 (and DES) are, and have only been, "research grade" chemicals. Never has anyone been allowed to produce Pharmaceutical grade Lr3...However, there has been "receptor grade"IGF Lr3, which is damn near pharma grade you wouldn't know the difference. Way more expensive though and very hard to get.

Maybe you guys are familiar with the famous Kigtropin scam? Basically it was a bait and switch, when it was around , LEGIT Kigtropin was a mixture of pharmaceutical grade GH, receptor grade IGF-1 Lr3 and 10 IU of humalog. They did that to make it the best people would ever use.

I know a lot of people who use the best of the best (saizen/Genotropin/Norditropin) and those FDA approved brands don't even compare to Legit Kigtropin, and for a reason..because they aren't mixed with receptor grade IGF.

That's a controversial subject and you could even say theory ^

but the people in the bodybuildiing community that i have learned that from, I trust them more than anyone else in the community so thats just my view on it. People can take that info and do what they want with it but to me it makes sense and the entity behind the kig scam had the resources to do so.

Increlex mixed with pharma gh could give same effect, unless for once we could find some real high quality IGF Lr3.

I know they have legit research companies, like the real ones that actually sell to the scientific community, but things like somatropin and IGF from those companies would be so expensive for such a little amount not even worth it

Theonslaught's picture

Wait a second there buddy. There was no humalog in there lol. I know humalog well and I used original kigs. They were great. But I took on empty stomach, so no way there was humalog in there

dieseld9921's picture

Damn bro thanks for explaining that...I always wondered why that kigtropin was so damn potent I got ripped to shreds off eating ice cream

irongame427's picture

Dude 1500 dollars is a great price. I mean think about it, were paying about 60 bucks for 1mg of a reasrach chem. Increlex comes in a 40mg vial, so if you just do $60x40 thats 2400. And it would be foolish to think that your gonna pay the same price per mg for pharm grade as you do a research chem. If its anything like gh it would be double. So were talking 5gs for a vial. And I just looked into this kigtrophin scandal. Seems kinda dangerous the have insulin in there lol. But honestly that combination supposedly has so much synergy and is what truly creates the mass monsters. And I'm thinking some of these steroid souces which i cant name here have some higher quality igf-1 compared to the research chem companies. There alot more pricy then the research chems.

Theonslaught's picture

Old info but nice read. Even 1200$ is nothing compared to gh. You'll get more muscle sooner before hgh really starts its wonders. By then you'd spend a lot more than 1200$

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Here's some info a little out dated but still good:
IGF-1, as the name implies, is an extremely anabolic hormone that has insulin-like actions (i.e. it shuttles nutrients, specifically amino acids and glucose, into the muscle cells where they can be synthesized into new muscle tissue.) When bodybuilders take growth hormone injections, they are not injecting a pure growth stimulus - they are taking a stimululating or releasing factor. It is for this reason that high dosing of GH is not necessarily going to result in more growth. Growth is limited by the amount of IGF-1 the liver can produce in response to any given dosage of GH. IGF-1 has been synthetically synthesized (using similar technology as that used to make GH) to circumvent the shortcomings that are associated with GH-mediated IGF-1 production in the liver. If we try to maxamize the output of IGF-1 in order to further increase muscle mass, it becomes much easier to just administer IGF-1 directly. In persuit of this goal, scientists began to study the pysiology and pharmacology of the hormone IGF-1. What they found was that IGF-1 circulates in the bloodstream (99 percent) bound to specific binding proteins. It is the remaining unbound or free (1 percent) of the IGF-1 that causes the anticipated muscle cell hyperplasia. (The bound 99 percent is essentially wasted).In order to combat this phenomenon of the binding proteins "stealing" our precious IGF-1, scientists have chemically altered the original IGF-1 molecule and have added chemically bound side chains, thus creating a new hormone known as LONG R3 IGF-1. (The long R3 refers to the three long side chains that have been added to the original molecule). These large, space-occupying, side chains are attached to the IGF-1 molecule to prevent these blood born binding proteins from "snatching" up and inactivating the IGF-1. For the last several years, most bodybuilders who were privy enough to get their hands on synthetically produced IGF-1 have been using the Long R3 IGF-1 variety thinking it will last longer in your body (12 hours opposed to 20 minutes). Also, that more of it will be available (unbound) to help build and repair muscle. The theory is essentially correct, however, what bodybuilders started noticing after extended usage of Long R3 IGF-1 was that it stopped working as effectively after about 4 weeks.
I began to keep notes and I worked out a system by which bodybuilders would inject Long R3 IGF-1 [about 10-20 mcg] within 15 mins following a workout so the IGF-1 could circulate and locate these newly produced IGF-1 receptors on the damaged muscle cell membranes. (These new receptors appear as a direct result of damage induced by intense weight training and muscular trauma). It is at these damaged cells that the body increases the number of IGF-1 recpetors so it can signal where the muscle repairs must be performed. (This is why muscle cells grow, preferentially, and not bone tissue or internal organs, as rumoured).
However, as the dosage of IGF-1 increases above the suggested 10-20mcg per day, the IGF-1 muscle cell receptors become saturated and now all this excess IGF-1 goes straight to the highest naturally occuring concentration of IGF-1 receptors - The extremisties (i.e feet, hands and facial bones). Thereby, side effects such as shoe and hand size increases and facial bone thickening can occur. Additionally, high Long R3 IGF-1 dosing will lead to decreases in muscle cell IGF-1 receptors, thus diminishing the results seen with Long R3 IGF-1 usage over time. In summation, empiracal evidence has shown that 10-20mcg per day of Long R3 IGF-1 causes significant muscle cell hyperplasia and will continue to do so extremely effectively for approximately 30 days.
Even with conservative amounts of Long R3 IGF-1, the hormone still stops functioning after a perios of time. Therefore, I usually suggest that bodybuilders take a two to four week "holiday" off the Long R3 IGF-1 after every 30 day course of administration.

irongame427's picture

Good read. I really don't know if I believe the 10-20mcg thing tho that's an extremely low dose. I guess the stuff is really potent then.

Theonslaught's picture

In think it's mentioned as to not cause unbound igf to be attached to the gut.

Idk.

Also, we're talking real igf lr3.
Idk whats going around at these research sites.

Pumps, hypo is bro science for legitimate igf

Theonslaught's picture

With script I saw increlex for 500$

sssafa3's picture

i need some info on increlex if you usd it. contact me.