I just finished the same cycle except I ran it in the reverse, tren higher than test, I ran it for 8 weeks, I got absolutely shit all sleep! and for some reason my body didn't care, I could quite easily stay up for 48 hours, I mean the gains were great, but the sweating and sleeping sides were preety bad, I got hella bad black rings under my eyes, and my complexion was preety pale looking, give me some nice test and drol any day, I wont bother with tren any more.

i tried a couple short 4-5 weeks blasts with it and i liked it. just when the sleep, lack of, was getting bad i was dropping it. i liked it this way

Well some people refer to it as the magic train, the tren train, and then there are others who are just to sensative to the sides and it ends up being the pain train. Smart move to call it early before things got worse. Thats the difference between running compounds smart with purpose, planning, and an acute awareness of how we are reacting and if it is helping or hurting our body.

This is a good read. Can you touch in the point about your high test dose? Have you tried low dose test with tren? As details said below. Thanks!

Tren ace sides usually hit me at week 6 as well, but only temporarily. On my current run at week 6 I was having slight trensomnia, but took OTC sleeping pills for a week alongside melatonin and the storm cleared. I dropped the sleep aids and was gtg.

I'm on week 12 now and feel like a million bucks, also sleep like a baby every night, no acne, "rage", or excessive sweating either. Just dry, hard gains.

I don't know if I'm one of the lucky few who don't get knocked out by Trenbolone, or if it's just because I've always ran low-dose test (200mg/w) with it. Your high test dosage may have contributed to these problems.

Either way, I hope you recover and are able to get a full nights rest soon bro. Good luck with your future progress and motivation.

Had the same issue , was only sleep one hour at a time, then wake up then sleep for an hour then wake up.I would end up with 4 hours sleep a night if i was lucky. i think it also had something to do with the tren spiking my BP. Once i started taking BP meds, my sides started to subside a little bit How has your bp been while on? has it caused any spkies? where your BP and pulse suddenly shoot up? Has it caused your BP to run high just in general?

Aside from all negative, any positives?
In 6wks any changes in muscle mass and/or leaning out?

Yeah man from all my research no matter all the sweet benefits of tren I wont ever mess with it.. I just love my sleep way too much! Im guessing ull be done with it as well!

I won't run Tren ACE again because it kicked the crap out of me when I used it in past cycles. (I was pinning the same dosages as you too).

The insomnia was REALLY hard to get past and took 7-10 days for it to start to subside after ending my cycles. The aggression made me lose many good friends that had been in my life for years because I simply didn't care about them and/or their world/s or anything else other than myself. And the undying sexual urge to chase the Mrs around the STATE, let alone the house, removed all need for doing cardio within my workouts. Sounds funny, but I VERY NEARLY lost the most important individual to EVER enter my life.

Tren Ace is NOT a fun product to use. at ANY age.

+1 for listening to your self and backing off a compound that is/was giving you more negatives than positives.

Proves you have the wisdom to recognize what some of us often ignore, Mate.

Thought of swapping it out for masteron?

Weird, I've never had any sort of sleep problem, certainly not that immense of one. Granted I am always on top of my ancillaries. Were you taking a dopamine agonist(prami, caber, bromo, ect)?

Hey bro I got a ? For ya but id rather ask in pm because I dont want to misguide the less educated users. Fr sent

I hate tren personally

Bro,

I hope u are not somehow down on yourself cause you're having a bad Tren run? C'mon man, there are folk like me that have been using that shit for 16 years and just know that u never know. I've had paranoid delusions from it one time and then the next three runs - perfect - not even a sweat.

A real man knows that he must sleep. He must. You did the only right thing. This round you just drop it. Bro, what alternative is there - stick it out? The active half-life of Tren A as u know is 2-3 days. U got a plasma level however built up from pinning it ED - It will take over a week for the blood plasma to get to 0 but hopefully u will be feeling better way before that.

Very best,

GearHead

Wish they would a make this a stickie For two reasons one to stop something instead of just ignoring it and the other for the young ones that think Tren is not a big deal