learning to be more safe!
I found this site about a month ago after being involved with aas for about 2 yrs.
on my 3rd cycle i started out sust@700mg/wk plus 60 mg dbol ed. i gained 12 lbs
the first 6 wks from 160 to 172lbs. But then i added cyp@500mg/wk, and tren
300mg/wk, i know this makes no sense whatsoever now, it was stupid and potentially
deadly. no ai and hardly any pct btw, i had no appetite and dropped that 12 lbs in
the nxt 4 wks, i found this site and was convinced to go on pct which is w.here i am now,
also back up to 166 lbs with great diet and excercise only. the reason for my post is for
me to see if I'm on the right track with what I've learned and maybe someone else will
read it and understand the difference some res.earch can make, as far as your health
and safety is concerneed, I'm still a long way off from cycles but want to throw 2 beginner
1 Intermediate cycle out there to see if I'm going in the right direction,not for now but maybe for someday.
current stats
30Yrs
5"7
166lbs
bf around 13%\
Will not start till i hit 180-185 lbs.
1St cycle
Test e@500mg/wk
adex .25 eod/ simple cycle definetly a good start
cycle 2
Teest e@750mg/wk
dbol50mg day
adex eod
intermediate
test cyp@500mg/wk
deca@400mg wk
test prop@100mg eod
npp@75mg eod
adex .25 eod
caber .25 e3d
all cycles with standadr clomid/nolva pct
100/100-50-50,40/40,20/20
I know that's just a start, but better then where i was
ill keep reading n keep learning. i apologize. if format is messed up
i don't think my phone is compatible with forums exactly
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Why does everyone list 750mgs of test for cycle 2 these days?... someone please answer me this question.
Whilst i am here i may as well comment on the intermediate cycle listed...... BULLSHIT!... Ratios are fucked.
Many of the cycles in terms of layout and dosages are coming back to us from the gyms and steroid dealer recommendations. The 750 mg / wk. Test 2nd cycle and the early Tren use are certainly part of that.
I thought 500 was low enough to make sure i had no adverse effects so 750 would be ok. i see the flaw in that. now that i think better(more isn't better) i read that about 20 times so should have known better.
as far as intermediate would those be ok compounds together, i thought prop n npp could be used as kickers. tests at higher dose to keep the nor sides down. remember I'm not doing it, just trying to see if all the reading is doing me any good, there are so many different opinions, i read a thread where. a guy said that the test didn't have to be much higher and another that may of said it needed to be doubled.
What i was most interested in knowing was if i have the right ideea about the adex and caber. I've seen quite a few ways different people use them in different threads. And 3 months would be great but it'll probably be more like 6 i have a few different natural goals id like to hit first and 3 months probably won't be enough time to get there realisticaly.
Yeah you can dose your caber and AI as low as .125mgs E3D's and still get the benefits.. it's something you have to test and play with a little... we all react a little differently.
I could see what you would think i was trying to do but i want to work on myself with no gear for about 6 months and then maybe a test only cycle. i apologize for the shotty wording but I'm not ready for a cycle now. my body needs a lot of recovery time right now
That's really good you understand what your body needs, and your going to do it the proper way.. I respect that to the fullest bro.. I wish you luck on your recovery and when it's time bro..post your cycle; I'll do my damndest to help you. +1
Thanks man, sry again for the poor wording and lack of clarification. i wish i could edit up top cause i think people are getting the wrong idea and it may seem irresponsible. i will post my cycle plan when that day comes.
sigh
look your 166 pounds, your problem is not gear its diet.
why are you proposing 2 cycles? I dont understand what your saying.
Here is my suggestion, your in PCT right now so you got another 3 months(im guessing, its time on+PCt= time off) before you would even be ready to cycle. Why dont you continue reading and learn to eat some food. Come back when your closer to running a cycle with 1 cycle plan and list your diet.
Go over to the diet section and start posting up some questions and see if you can start gaining naturally.
This might be better then where you where but it still looks like a train wreck. your not ready to run a successful cycle.
I'm not proposing i do any of the 3 cycles. was asking if they would be appropriate for someone at those different levels. i took every bit of advice i was given and am doing everything clean now and for a good while and have gained 6 lbs mostly by using stuff I've. been reading about, although that's weight i lost on that bad cycle so i don't think it would have been hard to get it back eithher way. i had a real bad situation with the tren i was on, i had such a bad anxiety or panic attack or whatever it was that i broke some of my back teeth. I'm working on diet exercise is getting better every wk and am reading everything I'm told to. some of the old threads have a little conflicting info so i was trying to see if i might be getting a better understanding of what to use and when. I'm not really planning on doing any of the three tho.
aylmejorI stopped reading before your stats.
I just want to say hormones are not for everyone. But it is good you seek advice. I wish you luck with whatever you want.
U know bro, I respond to a lot of posts like this. This is a train wreck, but I figure everyone who comes here as the last station on the line deserves at least one shot at getting sorted out from us. So we try to help them pick up the pieces, get their heads screwed on straight, show them were to go to do some research and hope for the best. It's hard to work through the frustration and perhaps even a bit of anger when dealing with people that are clueless, but it is rewarding if you can break through to them.
+1 I couldn't have worded it better sir.