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sust350 plus incredible hybrid

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Hey, I"ve been training about 5 yrs, cycling for about 2.
Stats- age,30,ht 5"8,160lbs, 4th week in cycle History-
first cycle- sust only 500 mg wk, second cycle-sust, dbol, at 750 mg wk and 50 mg day.
right now i'm on my fourth wk of a sust 350,dbol, mega test 400 hybrid cycle. sust 700 wk, hybrid 800 w,
dbol 60 mg wk. the hybrid consists of test cyp 200mg,test prop 50mg, and 50 mg each of tren ace ,tren e, and tren hex. I am gaining strength incredible and slowly gaining weight little by little. I was just trying to get a few opinions on how to maximize my gains. my diet is ok I think, 5000 cal, and attempt 300 grams of protein a day.I think my workouts are some of the best and most intense I've ever seen in the gym but something seems to be missing. I know that post was all over the place and I promise it will get more uniformed as time goes on but i'm really trying to be part of the community and learn all I can, especially what i'm doing wrong.

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I did, it was a stupid mistake that I'm now paying for. I was thinking about the famous feed efficiency you hear abbout with tren, plus the previous success i had with sust, i just thouught i had a monster cycle going on but it didn't work out that way. i was going on bits and pieces of condascending info i gott on other forums. its gone now and if i get on another one, ill research pcts and ai then compounds then submit it and then. cycle. but that's a few months away. it'd probably be something llike test cyp or test e n dbol or var but that's just a guess. i won't get into it without deep research

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kth3446's picture

definetly appreciate all the help, gonna cut the cycle short at the end of the wk, got a great source so nolva by wed or thurs shouldn't be a problem.

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kth3446's picture

Been on for 4 wks got hcg,clomid but was gonna save for pct till now. ordering nolva mon should have by thurs. stopping immediately as per advice. i did a stupid thinng I'm gonna man up n stop. reading thru every single diet n excercise forum post and then ill reevaluate. no more stupidity

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rolltide3's picture

Plus one for caring about your health

PIN_CUSHION's picture

none of that stuff 4 weeks in, only has clomid and hcg on hand is getting nolva next week

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I got one more question, i could actually use some advice. i mixed up some hcg@1000iu per ml. i want to inject I'm, so could use soome advice on how to do it best, how deep to go, should i expect pip, how often and anything. else i should know.

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Makwa's picture

Best to pin it with a slin pin so you can measure it accurately. Shouldn't be any pip. Are you using this for your PCT?

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Just part of it, also got clomid and waiting on nolva, nolva should be here wed

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PIN_CUSHION's picture

at the end of what week? this is the end of the week

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this is why I joined the forum, I couldn't get any further just working out I mean no matter what I ate but I do need some help so I"ll try this again.

sust 350@700 mg per wk
test hybrid @800 mg per wk
dbol@60mg a day =420mg per wk
body fat pct is low no more than 16 pct,
little closer to 165lbs but didn't wanna seem like a scammer
also i'm in wk 4 of 8
I would really like to do better but didn't even know this forum existed until a few months ago, I've been soaking in all the info I can, that's when I started to realize I better get some help.

3rd cycle now
first was sust only @500 mg wk
second was sust and dbol
sust@ 750wk
dbol@50mg a day
okay now I need some help, I think I did it right, I tried to post more pics and cycle history but cant quite figure it out.

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PIN_CUSHION's picture

Stop and go into PCT before you wreck yourself.

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is clomid and hcg enough? Gotta sleep for work if I can, i'll read it when I get up, if I need more let me know, and i'll get right to it at the end of the wk

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PIN_CUSHION's picture

Clomid at least 100/100/50/50
Nolva at least 40/40/20/20

you may even need to extend it a week or two, someone else may be able to get you a better one cause you are on A LOT of shit.
need bloodwork for sure

I'll see if I can get Rusty in here.

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ok, I gotta go to bed tho, got work 7to7 so take your time, i'll read it when I get up, I didn't really realize it could be all that bad but I do now and am going to take it seriously and do the right thing. I really appreciate the help and wish I would have just done this 5wks ago or so

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rolltide3's picture

Need nolvadex to order it asap

rolltide3's picture

Up top u have u doin the test hybrid 800 that would be the 400 twice a week which one is it are u doin it once or twice nm u fixed it . Do u have anything to combat the sides of tren or an ai what's your pct this looks really bad. What do u mean body fat pct is really low. Do u even know what a pct is

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right now I have hcg and clomid, I haven't started using either cause i'm not really having any sides, just no sleep,painful urination, some incredible frustration or anger, whichever but no gyno or anything like that, I was actually not going to use them until pct. I should have given it more thought, but I always figured I got 8 wks. really its only four now tho. I should have asked but I was looking around on other forums first and somebody would ask a question and if it wasn't up to standards in any way, they would get flamed immediately so I just tried to figure it out, which in hindsite was probably not the best way to go about it.

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Makwa's picture

i'm not really having any sides, just no sleep,painful urination, some incredible frustration or anger

Sounds like some pretty horrible sides to me. This cycle is way over your head. I hate to say it but if this is your third cycle (and monster one at that) and you are still pushing only 160 you have not mastered the art of dieting. You will never have a successful cycle and put on quality mass until you learn how to eat right. Just keeping it real here. All you are doing with these cycles is frying your HPTA and suffering through side effects and not accomplishing anything productive. Rolltide is right, stop this cycle and reassess diet and training or you are seriously going to hurt yourself.

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yeah that was really stupid, I thought that was just how tren was, i'm taking all the advice tho, gonna reassess my diet also.

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Catalyst's picture

X2 Mak, +2.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

All you are doing with these cycles is frying your HPTA and suffering through side effects and not accomplishing anything productive.

We should copy/paste that statement into 90% of cycle posts and cycle logs lately....................... +3

tzelukie's picture

OH Boy, NEVER start a cycle until you have all your shit... Including the knowledge of what each compound does, how it effects the mind and body, what is the recomended AI,PCT,Prolactin protocal. And how each compound effects YOUR body individually. These hybrid mixes have some kick ass results for the guys who have exp with the individual compounds but running a mix without that exp is a recipe for alot of butt hurt... Well your in the right place, these guys will shoot you straight. OH and eat more you got an inch on me and I got you by 45 lbs. And it wasn't an ass ton of gear that got me here. Good Luck

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

+3 here too.

Pale's picture

Yea friend, you are in over your head. Please spend some time reading about AI's and PCT. You are entering a world of pain. Mental and physical..

rolltide3's picture

Holy shit dude stop now u have no idea what u are doin to yourself go get your blood work done now. U have nothing to stop the sides that's goin to floor u . I hope for your sake its not to late. U don't know what prolactin is u don't have an ai u don't even have a proper pct. Please take this as I speak from the heart not trying to flame u. U are totally fucking yourself up this is maybe the biggest train wreck iv seen

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lay out that stack correctly then i can understand it properly..... like this............

Sust 350 @ xMG pr wk

Test 400 @ xMG pr wk

ETC, ETC, ETC,...................... then i can clearly see the dosages and how long the cycle runs for..... how many cycles have you completed etc...... Bodyfat % is important here too........... this looks like a fkn car crash but get it layed correctly before i put you straight.

rolltide3's picture

So this is your second cycle ? Bro your diet needs work u only weight 160 pounds and been training for five years.eat big to get big and if this is your second cycle what u are doin is crazy. U are doin crazy amounts of steroids smh u have more issues. U r doin 1.2 grams a week of test then on top of that tren and dbol holy shit dude