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kinda new pip question

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Ok so I'm going to ask a few types of questions everybody's probably sick of. its. both a pip question and an i have a friend question, so here it goes.

i have a group of 5 or 6 guys that i workout wwith pretty consistently. when we are on we mostly run the same things from the same places. me and. most of the other guys really never get any pip, long or short ester, ug or pharma it doesn't matter its usually pretty comfortable. we got 2 guys that always seem crippled by it though. we read all the pip posts we couuld find. id rule out dirty gear cause what wwe run from where varies so much and doesn't effect all of us. injection technique and site rotation look great to me, tried with and without eo, heating before injection and heating pad after. one guy gets it worse than the other but they both always end up there. what's stranger still is often when one guy switches to try and fix it, for the first 2 weeks he always says it feels great??? so I'm kind of at a lost, maybe. some people just can't. handle the hormone, even when they cut it with gso 50/50 no better. so any more ideas??

MONK's picture

Sorry if I missed this, but are you guys pinning the same gear? I know you mentioned your buds have tried all different pharma/UGL but have you actually pinned the same oil as them?

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kth3446's picture

Yes sir, we almost allways rrun the same stuff, especislly in s base level. don't matter where from, i got a pharma lab i prefer to use for mast and a private src i use for most other things. we also shop around during % off and bogo sales and go half on most things. so I'm just not sure why this dude is so sensitive in so many spots. anotther guy has it prettyrough that way too but not as bad and tthe rest of us are usually pretty pip free. i. fact if i can feel it for more than 36 hrs ill usually trash it cause i know it don't have to be that way, if i get pip snd its not just a bad injection i blsme raws or bad brewing and if a ugl can't makke smootth gear they don't know what. theyr doing and i don't trust any asppect of the operation. my health is more importsnt to me than a cheap bottle of test or pride in toughing it out. there are exceptions like certain high concentration gear and bold ace but its my geneeral rule...

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irongame427's picture

It just happens like that sometimes bro. I can't inject delts, I get terrible pip for 5-7 days after only 1ml, but I know people who can inject 550mg/ml test into their delt and be fine. But I can't even do 200mg/ml cyp. Idk what the cause of it is.

kth3446's picture

See that's the exact situation but he has it everywhere. just as much as helping myfriend I'm curious of the cause and hope its jnot one of those things that can't be explained. i gota pretty rough relationship with quads but I'm not rready to give up on them yet.

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Oldermuscle41's picture

Your boys have a low pain tolerance .. Tell the suck it up or find a new hobby.. Seriously, so many factors .. Have you physically watched them pin, maybe they are shaky and moving the needles around. Also, what size pins are they using - in my experience bigger pin equals bigger pip. Lastly, they are changing pins after they draw correct because drawing and pinning with the same needle can blunt the tip this leading to more trauma and pip not to mention contamination. Well if that's all In order then your boy just needs to man up.. Lol

kth3446's picture

All those bases are covered, with this happening all the time he was careful to learn to do things right. I've seen him draw and pin. gauge always 25 length dependinng on site. glutees 1 1/2- quads/delts 1". i would agree about pain tolerance but sometimes this dude gets knots and if not he's still walkin around like long john silver. I'm wondering if some people just can't process hormone the same way as most of us??

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