posted Wed, 10/23/2013 - 03:17
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+ 2 HGH Question - sides?
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Started hyges brown tops (this is day 4) - and this is my first time running hgh.
I may have fucked up the first bottle since I didn't put air in the vile before adding the BW.. it rushed in and diluted very quickly. As a result, I did 2iu on day 1 and 4iu on day 2 and 3.. reconstituted properly this morning and did 2iu.
So sides are not especitally prevelant yet, but I did feel 'strange' last night. I woke up a few times and my big toe was asleep and another time my fingers (like middle through pinky) were asleep. Also, a bit of discomfort in my heels.. Is this what I'm looking for?
If so, would you recommend continuing to run 4 until the sides become more prevelant or scale back to 2 at this point?
Thanks bruthas.
Igi
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Here's what I read for more than 2iu per day
Here is what a good ramp up program would look like:
Weeks 1-4 = HGH 2 IU’s one injection
Week 5 = HGH 2.5 IU’s one injection
Week 6 = HGH 3.0 IU’s split into two injections of 1.5 IU’s each
Week 7 = HGH 3.5 IU’s split into two injections of 1.75 IU’s each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose.
"If at any point in this progression you begin to have unbearable bloating or joint pain, drop the dose by 25% and hold it at this lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the sides subside, begin your progression back up toward your desired level. If the sides remain, lower your dose again and hold it at the lower level for two weeks before beginning the upward progression. This method will keep your HGH experience a good one and side free for the most part."
http://www.getropin.com/hgh6.htm
Good thread and solid questions IGI. +1 And +1 to you Tennessee for solid answers. thanks guys
thank you Ddave! appreciate that.. quick update on the sides through week 3..
Sides became pretty painful on 4iu/ed, so backed off to 3iu and no better, in fact, they seemed worse which I thought was strange. ended up backing off to 2iu the day before yesterday and actually skipped yesterday because the sides were continuously waking me up during the night - pretty painful... lol..
Back to 2iu today and I believe I'm keeping it here for another few weeks at least and then will attempt 3iu once again.
anything positive happening?
It may be too early to tell, but I feel like my bf is already lower. I'm on a bunch of gear as well and I typically feel like bf increases but not this time.. not sure if its in my head or not. All i have is a caliper but its showing a slight decrease so that's cool.
Otherwise, just the sides.
The sides at 2 are moderate? This is your 3rd week. Keep it at 2 for 2 more weeks and then 2.5 throughout your AAS cycle. Those sides shouldn't be painful. Move up when you're doing the GH by itself. Then you can get a better feel for it and see if it's worth the money and hassle. Also, there could be some synergistic effect impacting the sides. I've had to take this same advice while on my Test cycle.
Somewhere on this board is a guy with pictures after having surgery on his palms for CT. I realize I may sometimes sound overly cautious, but there are reasons.
Will do.. thank you. Yes, the sides did not subside as much as I would like them to dropping from 4iu, down to 3, then two for the past couple days. Keeping it at 2 until further notice.
You have to deal with brother. Sometimes my left arm falls asleep during the night at it gives me cramps as hell in my hand. I have to wake up for 5 minutes and then go back in my bed. But it seems with time it begins to disappear.
I have numbness in both hands all day long.
Yeah the past couple days were noticeably different. Numb as hell and painful at night. Even now, I feel like my palms and tender and I can't close my fist easily. Like you said though, I suppose I've got to deal with it. Going to sail at 2iu for a few days and then increase to 3 and so on.
It's best to start at 2 iu for a few weeks and work up weekly at .5 to your desired dose. I highly recommend a slow start with any generics. The reason is that not only does your body need to adjust to the GH, but impurities as well. In any generic brand there is excess EColi that was not strained off during the cook. Basically, you have bacteria that should be living in your ass floating around your body. Your immune system could be overwhelmed and have a hard time fighting it off.
Starting at 6-10 is moronic. Unless you are already huge and competitive there is no reason to do 10. Looking at your picture, I would advise 3.33x3. It keeps the math simple. I do this now and add a day off for day 4.
In the second or third week your body will let you know how it will deal with impurities. Back it down to 2 now for 3 weeks. If good, 2.5 for 1 week and then 3.33. After that, it's up to you but there's no reason to go past 5.
You should get used to the fatigue after 3-4 weeks. Each increase may result in a 1 week revisit of sides like fatigue and CT.
Good Luck
Anonsolid advice as usual
Thanks Man.
The same thing happened the first time i reconstituted a vial. I put the needle in, turned my head for something, turned back to push and was like, huh...how did that happen? Now, i hold my thumb under the plunger and let it go slowly at an angle.
The worst is pulling Test out of a vial. I only have 24 G for that. All I can say is i'm glad I have extra. If you lick that stuff off your fingers, will it work?..Just kidding.
Nice tip Tennessee - I definitely felt some numbness last night so I'm comfortable backing off now anyway. Considering I may have weakened the first vile, I feel like I don't need to wait until the sides are more prevelant. I will keep your post at hand as a reference when ramping up - appreciate it bro.
Igi
Thx Vinz. If you couldn't take a nap during the day, do you feel like an energy supplement would help you combat the fatigue?
coffeeeeeeee ;-)
Cool.. Good to know. Has the fatigue negatively affected your workouts at all? Thx for answering all of these questions bro.
No never, because once I'm at the gym, I'm focused on my goal and I didn't feel fatigue anymore except after my postworkout meal. But once again, it's seems that fatigue slowly disappear.
Awesome. Thx again!
thanks for the reply. how long have you been running hgh, and how long did it take you to begin to feel the sides and at what amount per day? I'm pretty sure I ruined or seriouosly weakened the first bottle so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with this one.
Do you think I should continue to run 4iu/ed?
Yes you can continue 4ui ED, I began to feel sides after one week I think.
One month now on HGH, I started with 6ui ED Hyge Green Top then 10ui ED with Brown Top and now back to 6ui ED with Genotropin.
Hi lgi,
These are my complete arms who fall asleep with 10ui ED brown top during the night (5ui AM and 5ui PM). Now, I'm running genotropin at 6ui ED and it's the same, even during the day my fingers fall asleep and during the night, these are my arms who fall asleep but sides will disappear with time.
I'm also tired. I have to take a nap once a day.
I had the same problem as you with the first vial, all the water is gone quickly in the vial.