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Tren a and dbol at same time?

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How does this sound? What should I change?
1-4 tren a 500 ew
1-4 dbol 50mg
1-12 test e 1000 ew
1-12 tren e 800

Anyone ran tren a and dbol at
The same time for a bulk?? How were your results.

Previous cycles

1000 test e ew
600 deca ew
50 dbol

Cutting
300 test prop ew
350 tren a ew
350 winstrol ew

All 12 weeks

BlackDoug's picture

Listen bro you may be a veteran in the game of gear but I promise you the people here only have your well being in mind. There is an advanced cycle group. I don't know if it's still active but click on the arrow select community and then groups. You should find it there. The guys just don't want to be throwing out crazy complexed cycles because sure as shit some 20 year old that's never cycled will roll in here and think that this is the cycle for him and end up fucking himself all up. You never did post up any stats by the way. Fill out your profile. The vets will go there and look and this gives them an idea of who and what they're working with. So take a different avenue and help us keep the youngsters safe ok.

swolltroll's picture

Hey bud, one of my first posts I layed out a cycle plan very similiar to yours. I got beat up by the vets, but it was tough love.

Honestly D - bol and tren is beyond overkill. Your only going to grow so much with juice, and often begginners think that more juice and compounds is going to add up to more muscle gains. This IS entirely FALSE.
Especially for a begginner, your going to respond very well with a minimum amount of juice. I wish I had the magic words to convince you otherwise, but your going to do what you want to do
With your current cycle you are going full throttle with the test, and its going to give you issues with aromatization around week 5. Also the D bol is going to add to that issue, and you may be getting in over your head to a place where gynecomastia is inevitable.

TheFlash85's picture

dude, its not only that, every thing is terrible! doses, timing compounds! its a horses ass of a cycle, that to be honest could result in this guys death, he hasn't came back so more than likely a kid!!!!

Buucko's picture

Yeah I'm not doing dbol and tren how is this a bad cycle I'm not trying to put on 10 lbs and look average I take bodybuilding very serious and want to be the best you think I should be running baby test cycles or what.

TheFlash85's picture

well for a start, it would mean that you would be running 1300mgs of tren a week in the first month, your finishing your tren e at the same time as your test e. your wanting to run a gram of test with it, and yes at the start you would have your tren higher than test but once you drop the tren a, the test would be higher than the tren and you would just feel like death, nothing good would come from this cycle at all!! maybe a trip to the hospital for a heart attack or even death.
ive seen your stats and ive seen you cycle history, its quite extensive, you've ran tren before, so you have experience, drop the doses of your tren down, and that means dropping your test down too, pick one or the other.

TheFlash85's picture

who took karma away from me for this???? and why?????

swolltroll's picture

it wasnt me....i gave you two points

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

BOOOM....All sorted..... welcome to level one brother Smile

TheFlash85's picture

cheers big fella!! appreciated!

TheFlash85's picture

thanks bro!

GRIMEY's picture

It appears I did, misclick brother, my alologies. iPhone + fat thumbs. +1'd ya.

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TheFlash85's picture

no worries bro!! cheers fr sent

GRIMEY's picture

accepted.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thanks for makin it right G you got a +3 for that Smile

GRIMEY's picture

no problem, and ty.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Let me take a look bro.... some fker will swing for this...... gimme a sec i,ll be back!

Nitti's picture

WOW!! That's a horrible cycle my man! You should scratch that whole cycle. Too much going on. Waaay too much test and way to much tren weeks 1-4. Like insane amounts! You have a LOT of reading to do. For starters read up on running SINGLE COMPOUNDS so you can get a better understanding of how your body responds. If you don't know how you respond to test e 500mg a week. Or test e 1000mg ew (with nothing else but an AI). Or test prop alone. How the hell do you know which compounds are working well or what gives you this side or that side? You run test only in a high dose (like a gram a week) and that's it right now. You still don't know test well enough to run all this other shit!! If you are experienced and saying "whatever Nitti, you don't know wtf you're talkin about. I got this!" Then you should be looking at EQ/Test with No orals. Way too much shit in This run. Doses are way off, compound mixtures are crap. I see no anti prolactin mentioned or even what dose you'd run with that much friggen tren. No AI mentioned. Bro start reading man! Seriously.

Buucko's picture

Ok lets see a cycle you think I should run. I have run test several times at 1g, tren, deca, dbol, eq. Going back to test and eq makes no sense. Ps I am trying to get to 260-280 compete at 250

Buucko's picture

I didn't not list every cycle I have ever run. I have run test a line at 500 750 and 1000 than added deca than dbol next couple cycles. I have cut with tren a at 500 and even tryed 800 I don't see why this cycle is horrible I have tryed all the compounds I am taking aromasin 25mg Ed arms prami .5

BlackDoug's picture

I really hope that wasn't my fat ass thumb that gave this proposed cycle some love. I've been known to do that with this damn phone. Bro we need stats ie: age,weight, height, body fat, and cycle history. If this is your picture you look quite young and do not need to be pumping all the shit in you body. For this I believe we will also need to know your goals (the forgotten question) for a little clarity here.

TheFlash85's picture

stats? before you get told how terrible that cycle looks bro!!!!!

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, am I reading your post correctly? Are those previous cycles EXAMPLES only. Certainly this is not your third cycle? Is it? The cycle you want advice on has 1,300 mg of Tren mixed ester and 1g Test with a little dbol thrown in for giggles. You are either a national level bodybuilder or powerlifter, right? I just got my ass chewed out by a couple of the MODs on this site for even responding to a post like this. I just took a look at your picture. You're gonna get sick my friend. So, here's my advice - do not run that cycle. I'm hoping some old timers will chime in here and direct you to where on this site you can get some more appropriate ideas.

Good Luck.

Buucko's picture

Sorry I didn't wanna spend hours listing all ky cycles I have run all the compounds before added them in one by one to see how I react. How am I gonna get sick lmao. Bro idk about this forum I ask questions and people are like bro you should run test only lol done that quite a few times. And idk why people need all my cycle history why not just my previous cycles lol