Stay lean add mass
I need some cycle advice! My goal is to compete in bodybuilding competitions at 260-280.
I have ran several cycles
Ps I had ran smaller cycles before this one...
Recent cycle:
Test e 1,000 mg a week 3 months
Deca 600 mg a week 3 months
Dbol 50 Ed week 1-4
Diet high protein high carb
I gained a lot of muscle and some fat I put on 30 lbs
I than went directly into a cutting cycle
50 mg prop Ed months 1-2
50 mg tren Ed months 1-2
50 mg winstrol weeks 4-8
Diet. Low carb high protein
I dropped body fat and put on some size in this cycle which was my goal.
I really don't know what to run at this point I could easily put on tons of muscle but that comes with fat... I want to stay lean and put on muscle. What cycle should I run next??
Thanks for your help!!
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Anonthe 270-280 that pro's step on stage flaunting is an entirely different quality of muscle bro.. talking 4-5% BF or even NPC for that matter
mostly everyone hits a weight gain barrier, either that - or they get sloppy and look sloppy
wish you the best of luck
Well as you can see below I got negged for suggestion 2 new compounds to you that you have never done before. So I'll throw you 2 options.
Weeks 1-18 400-500mg Test Cyp
Week 1-16 600mg EQ
Weeks 3-18 Aromasin 12.5mg ED or adjusted as needed......
Or
Weeks 1-14 Test Cyp @ 600mg
Weeks 8-14 Anavar @ 50-75mg ED split dosage.
No need for PCT since you are TRT. You'll just go back to your TRT. With either one you decide to go with keep an eye on your blood pressure. EQ can raise your RBC. I also suggest Turmeric for joint health and get you some Milk Thistle for liver support if you decide to go with the Var.
Those cycle really look like beginners cycles.. Wtf..
add deca to the EQ cycle and it will be fine, you need the bulk of it anyway your 25-45 pounds short of your goal
1000 test-c 1-20
800 EQ 1-18
600 deca 1-18
If my diet is on point how much weight am I expected to gain off of that cycle?
I think that your routine is going to have a lot to do with that as well as the diet. If you're going for just straight raw size then I would go heavy as I could (sensibly) on my big compound exercises. Deads, rows, bench, squat and shoulder press.
Hmm seems like a very mild cycle?? I'm trying to put on a lot.... I might of run the 1000mg test deca again... Why not tren??
I know they look mild and they are. Those are my suggestions for a lean mass gainer. I originally suggested both in the same cycle but just for that one comment I've lost 5 points. I know you want to put on a lot and I understand why. But that's obviously going to depend on your macro intake. If you feel that you want to run deca and test again that is up to you. I would just try to keep the test and deca at a 2:1 ratio. Test>deca. So if ran 600mg test then you would run 300mg deca. Prami or caber for prolactin issues. If you ran Tren, then a lot of people notice less sides with their Tren higher than test. Not saying that is true for every person cause everyone is different. Same thing. Prami or caber on hand. I'm not going to suggest a dosage on that because I myself am new to Tren but I'm running Tren Ace at 100mg ED and Test Prop 50mg ED. I will let someone more experienced in that department guide you there. I don't want to give you any bogus information or advice. I hope I was on some way a little bit of help. I apologize of I wasn't.
Also I love tren I get hardly any side effects no increased anger or anything just gain muscle :)) ps I am bed prone to gyno... Dbol is no good for me... I have had to use letro several times get get rid of lumps..
what was your dosage on tren? im curious since you get almost no side effects from it lol
Did you take any kind of AI while on cycles? How many cycles have you previous ran in total? When was the last time you had blood work done?
2 small cycles.. Wouldn't even count them as cycle.. 300mg test and 25 mg dbol that was like a year or more ago
No blood work done. And I take aromasin 12.5 ed
What kind of cardio do you do?
Compounds don't shred you up. Diet and cardio do that. Sure some are more androgenic than others but that doesn't mean if you take X amount of a "cutter" that doesn't mean your on your way to being big and shredded.
Oh I totally know diet is key. My last cutting cycle with test prop tren and winstrol I was doing very low carbs 50-100 a day with one refreshing day every week. When I bulk I do 400-600 carbs and put on size
Well.... I am trying to find a cycle and diet where I can put on size and stay lean. My current diet is carbs breakfast preworkout and post than I cut the carbs off... Working great right now... So my question is to you or anyone else is there a specific diet I can stick to!!?? Or do I have to switch it up depending on my goals!??? I feel I can gain muscle with the "eating carbs when I'm going to use carbs" ps I eat very clean when I eat carbs I eat oats, brown rice , potatoe, post workout I do simple carbs like honey and a protein shake.... Thanks for the help!!
X2! The steroids are just tool. Proper diet and cardio is going to be the way to get the best out of those tools.
How does this sound
Test e 300 ew
Tren 750 ew
1,000 eq ew
Ps I had ran eq before forgot to list it and it was at 300
I agree also my last tren cycle. I was doing low carbs.... And getting shredded I decided to up my carbs a little because I was reading you can eat more on tren!! I increased my carbs and I gained more muscle and was losing fat..
Some people have notices that Tren makes them lose thier appetite. I haven't noticed any real change in mine and I'm running 100mg tren ace ED. Was eating high carbs on your training days?
Eating high carbs like the last two weeks of my diet and stayed lean and added some eight..
OK there is way to much that hasnt been said before anybody should be giving out cycle advice.
first of all I need to know what all compounds you have ran, or cycle experience?
next we need to know what is your current weight?
what is your current BF%
how far out are these comps you are trying to compete in?
Are you TRT?
How long have you been off cycle/or what are you taking now?
Compounds used
Test e and test p
Deca
Dbol
Tren a
Current weight 235
10% body fat
Not sure when my first comp I gonna be I just want to compete at 260 and up I'm the next year or two.
I jus want to add lean mass little fat stay lean year around..
I am on trt
I have been cruising at 300mg for the last two months holding on to my gains
Also my diet.
I am currently only doing 200 carbs a day
Morning pre and post workout all other meals are chicken/tuna fish/steak and brccoli
Thank you for your help!!
What is your height?
6 1
So the dude has ran 2 19nor compounds, mast, Dbol and gram of test plus one cycle to another. I suggest 2 of the mildest compounds and I get -3 for a simple suggestion. I'm aware no stats were asked for but was that nessecary? I'm not the one telling him to run a shit load of tren.
I seen that you suggested var and EQ and I dont see where he said he ran either of those, so I negged you for advising two new compounds in one cycle. I would expect you to do the same to me
Added to the comment below.
So now he has ran
Deca
EQ
Dbol
Winny
Test
Tren.
So techniquelly I only suggested 1 new compound.
Then I apologize. My logic of thinking was if he has ran "harder" compounds and more than 2 in the same cycle then then EQ and Var being more of the milder would be a little less harsh on him. But you are correct about the stats. Normally I ask for stats or even go to the profile and copy/paste them to the thread for other. More information should have been I'm acquired prior to suggestions but that is also why I did not recommend any dosages until we had received more of a background on his situation. I also question on these previous cycles did he have any prolactin or AI protection during these cycles. So my apologies for jumping the gun a little.
Prami as prolactin support
What dosages?
I was at the same spot your in now.. Ran a nice bulker then shredded on a good cutter.. Now im on a sick fucking
"LEAN MASS CYCLE". & LOVING IT BRO... Lifting super heavy..Strict diet and decent cardio... Gainin nothin but "lean mass"..
. My favorite cycle yet. = )
CYCLE LAYOUT
TEST E- weeks 1-16 @ 250mg a week.
(Mon 125mg & Fri 125mg)
S-DROL "kicker"- 25-50mg ED
weeks 1-4.
TREN E- week 1-2 "frontload"
(Mon 500mg & Fri 500mg)
Week 3-14- 500mg a week.
(Mon 250mg & 250mg a week)
EQ- weeks 1-16 @ 1000-12000mg a week.
"Pinning EOD"
Ahh that looks great! Could you post your diet? I would appreciate it!!
Pm me homie.... Apperantly pps dont like the info i gave u.lol
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we dont promote 2 new compounds in a cycle on this board!
Gotcha.
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Also would like some diet advice I did try eating higher carbs at times and it seems I stayed lean... On tren??
I'm thinking Test, Eq and anavar for a nice finisher.
Even in the face of adversity you continue to just keep doing what you do! You're awesome! I learn from you each and everyday! Great Job... (I'm giving you my I'll STFU face and walk away)
I see the point but I'm not going to be butt hurt about it. Everybody gets negged at some time or another. I'm just here to learn and try and help. :-)
I'm running test the whole time... Eq?? At what dosage and when and anavar when?? Last 4
Weeks?? Why not winstrol?
Anavar can be ran up to 8 weeks and dosages can be any where from 50-100mg. If its your first time running Var then stick with something around 50-60mg ED. IMO Winstrol is either for woman or somebody getting ready to prep for a show. The down side to Winstrol is it has a tendency to dry out joints and cause joint pain. But that's just my .02 on that.
I was thinking 350 test e a week
750 tren??
start lower on the tren man. it goes a long way lol and hits hard