posted Wed, 05/29/2013 - 12:30
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-1 this is the body im aiming for is it achievable natty or they all on steroids?
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zyzz - http://tinyurl.com/qj827ao ( I know zyzz was)
lazar angelov - http://tinyurl.com/pptu2zv
jeff seid - http://tinyurl.com/qahspvn
Harrison twins - http://tinyurl.com/nevmrjo
Gregg plitt - http://tinyurl.com/njcj7oo
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Greg Plitt is definitely the hardest mother fucker out of them!!! That guy can motivate you like no other! Plus his dedication alone is some serious shit! You can do this natural genetics definitely play a big part in that. Definitely have to be a meso!!! None of that is obtainable with diet, hard work, and dedication!!!
it depends on your genetics, im sure these guys have a very stick diet and put in a lot of work, the question is are you going to need juice to get to that physic. and yeh def juicers
I have to dissagree with most of you. It's not a realistic goal for "most" people but some people do have the genetics, it's just a matter of do they have the discipline it takes to get their bodyfat that low. It's not common but over the years I have known a "few" guys who had this look and I know for a fact they didnt even have access to steroids. I have also known at least a hundred more guys who would look like these guys if they just lost 3-5% more bf but it simply wasnt a concern of theirs. Another hundred who looked like that except 190lbs but these were not even bodybuilders or people that were even concerned with geting bigger so had they been so minded Im quite sure some of them could have easily gained the weight without steroids and just a good diet and workout regimine. "Some" people do have the genetics but "most" would at least need help with shreding the fat. not so much obtaining the size and measurements. Just my opinion from what I have seen down here in the country.
AnonFind me one real (not touched ) picture of anyone who looked like this prior to 1960.
Good genetics you say ? Horseshit !! I say ! Are you seriously trying to tell me that these so called "better genetic people " have only existed the past 30 years or so ? Im not saying you dont need good genes, and that some arent better than others, but to try and say these models above look like this stricly due to their genetic makeup is wrong.
Look at the best athelete, the hollywood tough guy or any gym rat from the 60's or beyond and tell me these guys today are doing this by hard work and diet alone.
When exactly did steroids start to make their way in to society ? And then when did bodies start to get cut ,ripped and jacked ?
BigBmajGo pop into a prison some day and take a look. I know some of those guys can get gear but not all.
BigBmajWhat about Sandow?
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AnonI believe Arnold Swartzeneger used to claim to be all natural too.
greg plitt is the most impressive fucker, he is on that test/var/ t3 all day.. probably the best looking dude of the century (no homo)
Does anyone know when, where, and why in our society did what WE ALL do become so "bad"? I've never been able to figure that one out.
i dont mean to offend, but i call this post B.S. u dont come to a site about AAS post pics of notable juicers and say i want to look like this "all natty" lol come on really. over 20+ years in the gym I have never seen ppl like that natty, is it possible??? maybe and i mean a slim maybe, but personally i dont think so.
Anonagreed !
BigBmajI should take some pictures of friends that are natty and post them for inspiration. I'll probably later learn they are all taking huge doses of GH and slin but ... what can I do?
I have a picture of me natural if anyone is interested. Maybe I'll post it up - I don't look like a God but I am natural in it.
BigBmajI'm a man of my word. I posted something. I sure don't look like some of those guys. But I certainly don't look terrible. Shit maybe i do. But I looked even worse.
AnonIf you hadnt injected anything in to your body your argument would be fair, but thats not true is it ?
BigBmajYeah you are right. But Zyzz was taking tons of gear for only looking ok.
I was taking 100 mgs of test. Just to get it to a "normal" range. I don't think saying that's pretty natural is far out of line.
I can post a picture of a local bodybuilding physique show. I know 75% of those guys and they are natural.
Its possible to look good without gear.
Hodge twins did it. Lots of people have.
AnonI didnt say it wasnt possible , and define looking good . I think yours and my perception is warped.
The hidge twins ? What you mean those two knuckle heads on you tube ? They are juiced .
If you are taking peptides you are not natty, if you are taking hgh you are not natty and if you are taking any testosterone you are not natty. All of these things may indeed exist in the human body naturally but by injecting more that means you are getting " help" as I stated earlier.
Just because a body builder can pass a drug test does not mean he did that without drugs, it just means they wernt detected.
BigBmajI agree that my picture isn't all "natural". But... I'll go find you some pictures of some friends. Its going to take a minute because I'll have to do some editing. The pictures will be of people who don't take shit - nada. Seems like many of the black guys at the gym look naturally better than many of the people juicing their brains out here. I have one friend who has 20 in arms naturally. I'll post pictures.
Don't think the knuckle head twins juice.
AnonHahaha the knuckle head twins, now thats funny.
Are peptides "help" Would you consider someone who takes HGH to be getting " help" .
I'll admit you got amazing results with just a small amount of test, and even with the help your results are astounding , but IMO its far more unreasonable to encourage someone to reach these goals by staying natty. The question is how bad do they want to look this way . For me not bad enough even with juice, but if I did really want it Id want the truth about how to get it.
BigBmajI'm usually the first to tell someone to take something to help them get to where they want to go. I'm not trying to deny anyone the truth, do those guys juice - yes I'm almost positive they all do. Is it possible to make great progress w/out - for some people yes.
Thanks for the compliment. I think we generally agree.
Peptides cheating - yes. I think the term natural is so dangerous because half of the stuff you can get at GNC isn't "natural".
IMO I believe these guys are juicing.. Personally I think it can be done naturally..but like some members already said your job would be strict diet, in the gym more than I would want to be and consistent rest. This is more than I would want to take on myself due to the time my profession demands on me... thus the reason I am here! My. 02
seriously, greg plitt. guy never comes off. ,makes a living looking a certain way all the time. cmon man???????
AnonI dont believe that is atainable without help. Even to get close to this it would have to become your lifes work, so you better quit your job right now.
BigBmajAre you kidding? I know numerous people that look better than Zyzz. And most of them are NATURAL. Don't down play the possibilities of natural training. If I wanted to look like him I would have to quit taking shit.
Besides the dude died in his 20's. I wouldn't encourage that bullshit. I love juice but don't make people think it's impossible to look awesome without it.
My advice to the person asking the question - go for it. Get as good as you can naturally. Train hard and eat well. You may amaze yourself.
AnonIm not down playing anything, where did I down play natural training ? But if he wants to look like these pictures hes not getting there without "help" as I put it. In fact you cant really speak on this now can you, because even the "natty" pic you posted you had " help" now didnt you ?
Also I SAID youd have to make a career out of trying to look like that, so if anyone is down playing anything its you, by trying to suggest you could get anywhere close to this without dedicating the majority of your time to it. These people who are magazine covers and underwear models get PAID to do this. This is their job !!
Zyzz obviously juiced, he talked about his use often, and Jeff Seid also juices. Both of their physiques are truly fantastic. I quite like Zyzz's "hard" look - I don't think he ever used quick mass-gainers like dbol/superdrol etc.
And no, I don't think the looks are possible natty, unless you have absolutely perfect genetics (myostatin deficiency, sky-high endogenous test production, a doctorate in nutrition and exercise science, and a lifetime of training). So basically, no.
Nah bro they all used cell-tech and a multi and got plenty of sleep
lol damn dude!!! that's the look I hate!! I go for the bulky gorilla look, that being said my mate achieved the same body as those dudes in 14 weeks with just 2mls of test a week, and some stanzanol we call him mr veins
HardBodEricAll those guys are Natty and i am too, We all are.
Achievable? I think it's achievable. I the time frame you'd like? Probably not. These guys are using something IMO.
Im betting they all take gear
BigBmajIt totally depends on your genetics man.
I think some of those looks are pretty attainable naturally with good genetics. I'm surprised Zyzz took that much stuff, he doesn't look that great.
I'm not a Zyzz fan but dude blew up, 60-70lbs in two years.
BigBmajMe too, with only 100 mgs of test a week. Ill show you a before and after where I gained 60 lbs in 16 months. That's why I tell people all the time they take WAY too much gear.
Now I'm the one taking too much.
lazar is pretty jackd aha thats where im tryna get. couldn't imagine getting there without steroids though
IMO, i think they all juice.....lol
Yupp. Pretty much.
BiteyThey'd need amazing genetics and crazy dieting.
I know Seid and the twins juice.