To the experienced:
I'l try to keep this short. I've been contemplating for a while now on whether to start a first cycle or not. I have my gear on my way and I've honestly been counting the days. I've seen countless threads, guides and such. And starting gear at 21 in obviously no bueno. I decided to wait, and now I'm 24. But many recommend waiting till at least 25 for many reasons. But regardless many jump the gun and go one with their cycles round my age. Now my question to you, the people who waited till after 21, but couldn't wait till 27: What would you have told yourself at that age to make it a much more rewarding and safer experience in general. I'm just interested in possible advice I may be missing as opposed to "just wait a couple more years bro." Because I just might keep it in the closet for a few months or years anyway. "There is peace in patience."
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MakaveliCD7My advice is research and learn those compounds in depth....every compound u are contemplating using whether it b test, Deca, AI or whatever u have so that u know it back and forth...the positives and the negatives....weigh it out....a great mark is are u prepared and have all ur bases covered?....another is if u are growing in mass and strength within reason the why bother....I would contemplate use if a plateauing was present and u exhausted all natural ways to push forward with no success....as u stated there is def peace in patience....glad u are seeking wisdom of others and not jumping off bc others....u are wise....just research and listen to ur body
Good for you brother for asking this question! I can't tell you anything that hasn't already been said by the members below
having it and not using it is worse. you'll know when the time is right. dont let others influence you. if you are educated it will be safe. if you are not, then wait of course until you learn. waiting does no good, if all your doing is waiting. If the wait is a process to maximize, then it is worth waiting. otherwise you're just wasting time not getting what you want, having regrets you didnt make the choice whatever it is, sooner then later
Absolutely not. I have been off for some 5+ months and am gaining naturally! I'm around 197. Ill definitely be doing another cycle soon. My favourite is test and d Bol to bulk
Soaking all this up! Thank for for your time! Still learning more each day. Tren and deca are out the question for me atm. Just a simple 12 wk test e cycle to test the waters would suffice. Do you guys believe it's harder to make natty gains after a cycle btw?
AnonNot at all. As long as you are confident in your PCT meds legitimacy you should rebound from a test only nicely. I know pinning isn't fun especially when you aren't so used to it, but I would strongly recommend 9-10 weeks of test E and a test prop taper it will make the transition from on to off much much smoother.
AnonI think your biggest concern could be fertility issues. Not saying plenty of guys who cycle cant have kids, but I think it should be something you really consider if you know you want a family one day.
I would suggest a guy who is thinking long term like that would just do test cycles, with maybe an oral . Nothing like tren, or deca that is going to shut you down.
I did my first cycle just before I turned 21. Prior to that I had been lifting about 4 years solid. I took weight training in high school along with PE and I worked out after school... I was a bit of an iron junkie. As you can imagine I was good size and very strong. I started reading about steroids online and started researching them... Lurking on boards and extensively reading profiles so I had an extremely good understanding of what steroids were and how each individual compound worked. It had been about a year and 2 months since I had begun researching steroids before I first started. I do not regret starting when I did. I was unbelievably dialed into my training and diet and had reached my natural plateau... I believe I was 197 lbs diced at 6'. Lifts were insane as well. I had a great first run at it and was very prepared to run a cycle. My only advice is be both mentally and physically prepared! Have your training dialed in along with your diet and know exactly how the compounds you are using work and have a planned cycle on paper and keep a detailed log. I guarantee if you do this you will have amazing and addicting first experience
my first cycle was sustanon 250 i ran it for 12 weeks and pinned 2xwk i ran no pct and nothing else, i was 19, that was almost 20 years ago. knowing what i know now i never wouldve have, i wouldve waited and learned, gained knowledge and made natty gains. i have a small lump right side that has never went away but hard to notice, thankfully thats the only negative at this point. take your time, if youre going to anyway soak it all up and be prepared, understand the consequences, the sides and benefits as well. learn the different aas and ancillaries and pct, get it all down like youre an encyclopedia and than do it. than youre ready. but waiting is always the best option
I can not answer your question regarding age but I can allude to a very recent mistake I made with my first cycle. I'm 25, I waited till 25 to cycle, initially I became interested at 23. My first cycle was somewhat devised by the same people responding to your post, I had everything on hand prior (ancillaries, AI's, test). I didn't get blood work pre cycle to get a baseline of my normal function. Now, I'm struggling with my recovery and with out those baseline bloods I won't really know if it was my first cycle that caused my current circumstance or whether it is something that's been happening all along. Good luck bud.
What is your current circumstance if you don't mind me asking? And i will most definitely get baselines before I start now.
I haven't recovered. It's been six weeks post pct and my bloods had my test below 300 nd/dl. My pct chems were legit too, I confirmed them with bloods. It was my first cycle.
AnonNot trying to insult your intelligence in the least but how exactly did you confirm your PCT chems with bloods? I highly doubt you made it to 97 karma and don't know how to properly, I'm just a little lost that a presumably test only first cycle would do that! Good luck I hope all goes well for you.
I got blood test at week two of my pct. FSH and LH production are increased with clomid. This aids in the positive feedback loop and tells the boys start producing more test. Here is the blood work I got. You will see that clearly both FSH and LH are elevated beyond the normal range. This means that my pct chems were functioning as they should. Let me know if you have any other questions.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/purchase-peptides-pct-labs.
AnonGreat advice bro! Having a baseline pre juice is huge for knowing if you have had a full recovery.
Thanks! And midget will use midget porn when gf isn't around on cycle!
RustyhookerI waitied til 28 and couldn't get past a plateau. Changed foods and exercise etc. Gave me enough boost past my plateau that mild cycles keep me at goal weight.
I'm old and still not trt...THAT'S a bonus! Cycle for boost but not because you have to.
AnonWell regardless of any advice I can give u maybe this observation serves u best. U have a maturity that is apparent just from reading this thread. I trust whatever decision u make will be thought out and made with ur best judgement.
I kinda miss looking at Bridget the midget
RustyhookerGood point! ^^^