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1st cycle advice!

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Hello broskiis! I've been following as a ghost for a while, and I love this forum! As the title suggests, This will be my beginner cycle. Been interested in the idea for a while but decided to wait a bit and do research. It's been plaguing my mind these last few months and have my gear on the way. Anyway.

Stats: Age: 24. 5'11 Been hitting the gym since a little before 18. Been in BJJ for bout 2 years. Started and 130lbs. bf%: 15-17. Now at 168-170lbs 8-10%bf. Now I know I can likely gain a lil more natty. But I have my stubborn brain set. Will be starting next month on the 10th, and might just make a log for the hell of it!

Goals: Adding roughly a clean amount of lean 10-15lbs muscle mass, after pct. If I gain any extra fat during, I have a non AAS cutting stack on hand.

Cycle:
Weeks 1-12: Testosterone enanthate - 250mg Monday/250mg Thursday
Weeks 2-12: Aromasin - 12.5mg every other day
Weeks 4-12: HCG
500 IUS 2 times a week

Post Cycle Therapy

Weeks 14-17: clomid 50mg
Weeks 14-17: Nolvadex
Week 14: 40mg
Week 15: 40mg
Week 16: 20mg
Week 17: 20mg

Diet: 4000+ calories per day. Consisting of 40/40/20 pcf% Work at a sushi joint so this should be no prob!

If any of the above looks incorrect or you would like to add constructive criticism, please oblige!
Questions I need clarification on:
1. I see debate on this on multiple forums. But do you discontinue hcg at around the last pin or 3-4 days before pct?
2. Would it hinder my results if I continued to train in BJJ vs straight lifting?
3. If I needed to abruptly discontinue AAS for any reason would I wait exactly 2 weeks before pct?
4. I've read the sticky on what you do after a cycle. Pizza, pasta, and beer! Cheeers! Lol! But really, I've read mixed things about this as well. Do you take that 10-14 day break to rest the muscles while maintaining a clean diet before pct, or after pct?

I may have more questions, but this be getting long mon.. Appreciate any and all feedback!

VashS's picture

Right onn! Thanks for the input. That link makes sense. And if for some reason I get side effects like gyno, I would just up the exe? From what I've read around, overall I shouldn't do nolva to make sides clear right?

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outofacomic's picture

Dose the test E at 250mg every 3-4 days.. keeps blood levels more stable.
Run your Exemestane every day at 6.25 and adjust as needed (gauge from blood work).
PCT: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Exemestane: 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25

swole47's picture

It's really that simple. I can't technically +1 but I'll give a thumbs up for this

pharamacuticali's picture

p.s. you are so lucky to work at a sushi joint. all that free protein lol

pharamacuticali's picture

post cycle is 2 weeks of clomid at 50mg and 40mg nolva - everday
followed by 2 more weeks of clomid at 25mg and 20mg nolva - everyday
this is after 2 weeks of last pin

you dont need hcg for first cycle
and you dont need hgh until you are in your 30's. you will build muscle without it.

alloneword's picture

Give this link a look bud. I think clomid should be at 100mg a day for the first two weeks. Then 50mg a day for the last two weeks.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/announcing-gc...
I got bloods two weeks into my last PCT and even tough my FSH and LH were elevated my test was not, I can't imagine how my recovery would have been affected if I cut my dose in half. To what you're suggesting.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/purchase-peptides-pct-labs.
I'll have bloods posted in a day or so confirming my recovery.

pharamacuticali's picture

you are absolutely right. my math was off. damn russian math. yeah its always double the dosage for 2 weeks then single dosage for 2 weeks. thanks