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My 3d cycle i wanna get lean gain and cut as much as possible !

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so i had test e and dbol with my last 2 cycles , with my next cycle i wanna get lean gain and cut as much as possible with next cycle , I really wd love to try tren a but i m not sure if its fine to use it with next cycle or not !

1-16 test e @ 300mg
1-16 eq @ 600mg
12-19 var @ 80 mg ed
17-19 test p 100mg eod
pct 3 days after last test p shot.

This is my plan for next cycle ! what do you think abt it and let me knw if i can replace something in this cycle with tren a ...

mikebuie's picture

man oh man aj, im really not tryin to be a dick you SERIOUSLY need to get your head outta your ass brother. i have absolutely NO desire to run tren ANY time soon, maybe not ever, and even i know more about how to dose and cycle it than you do. that tells me you havent done hardly any research, and therefore have no concept of the side effect tren will bring ...

dude, my wife knows what prop is and simply from me talking about gear so much and what im learning, and you actually cycle and are a member of this board but werent sure?! bro, this has got bad written all over it and you should seriously reevaluate WHY you feel you need tren on your 3rd cycle. theres a reason people say to wait you know, and its not hard to find.

i dont know how to post links from my phone bit celtic warrior posted a thread called something like, tren its not for everybody or something close to that. find and read that shit bro, and also pm nitti and ask him for his early experience with it and what he went through to find what worked for him. im trying to give you reasons why you should rethink this instead of just telling you, at least follow up on them! what harm could it do?

tren requires an enormous amnt of responsibility to cycle correctly from what i gather - rustys right aj, we know time off wasnt taken which is whatever, its your choice and im sure if not most of us have done it at least once, but especially in that even your goals for this cycle are whack! lean bulk and cut? bro, those are 2 opposing things, cant really give either one you're all and do them correctly if you're attempting to do both at the same time.

its a marathon not a race bro, calm down and relax a second. you dont have to achieve your ultimate physique in one cycle, its not possible. be cool and stop tryin to cycle like you have 3 months left to live!

kick's picture

tren is ace bro you can cut your prop down and do 75mg of tren a day and 0.5 of prop ed or eod, no need for loads of test although it is argued and people do it, eq wont hurt but tren and prop i love it , tren ace not the enanthate as i dont find it half as good.

kick's picture

75ml everyday injection and yes test proprionate , i actually run 100mg a day of tren but i recommended 75mg to you its your third cycle you want hold muscle??? if you get bad side you can do that 75mg every other day heighten the test just see what works for you but its been said your better to go low on the test higher on the tren so you get less sides but more gains? whatever works and you dont need some one else permission to do your cycle do do what you wan although sometimes it helps to listen to a long termer as they can help you with future problems but usually people dont practice what they preach i notice,iv been around steroids for 15 years now. i read alot but i no far from everything,

youngtricep98's picture

Bad advice dude... -1

kick's picture

wish i never got involved 75mg of tren and 0.5 of prop i thought that was a pretty standard cycle ed or eod

Catalyst's picture

I can see you're trying to help, but we don't tend to suggest running tren with this guys level of experience. There's some background stuff that makes it a bit less suitable too, (read through the posts, you'll see what I mean, "I'm going straight back on after cycle" etc.). Probably why it looks like we're being harsh / dismissive of the request for advice.

GRIMEY's picture

He is never going to listen, I am just going to sit back and watch the train wreck.

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strongman480's picture

He want's someone to pat him on the head and tell him he can run what ever he wants. he is only going to here what he wants to here. now he is insulting people because he doesn't know what the hell to do period.

strongman480's picture

swigs Geritol... hormone imbalance? lol

GRIMEY's picture

you're right, you are a diet expert, you know more than everyone else and look better than everyone else, all the more reason for you to stop asking for advice that you will not listen to. Have fun with your super awsome 3rd cycle multi compoind get lean and shredded magic pill cycle, and when it hits the fan, have fun trying to get help.

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strongman480's picture

http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/how-much...
"i obviously have good diet and much better than most of u guys that's so obvi in my picture"... if your stats are correct then no your diet is not. also if you are a "bodybuilder" then you should know how many macros you need to get the final result. if you don't know this you are not going to make it pro.I would never get to 18% bf. no you should not do tren you have a hard time putting together simple cycles. do what you want just google that shit and stop with the questions. all you want is some one to tell you exactly how to run a tren cycle and that's not going to happen here. do your own research.

Catalyst's picture

Are you going to listen to anyone's advice this time? Guys here have tried to help you in the past without success.

GRIMEY's picture

why not just test and EQ or test and var? most reccomend only introducing 1 new compound at a time.

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strongman480's picture

yes it will. i'm on test only right now 800mg and i'm getting leaner and gaining mass at the same time. you know why because i've got a awesome diet. you could take tren and if your diet is shit you will still look like shit. it's all diet. if i remember correctly viking told you to just do what you want because you don't want to here what we have to say. this is the same question you have been asking for months and the answer is still the same. go back to your old post for your 3rd cycle some people gave you really good advice.

GRIMEY's picture

Neither will 3, the compounds wont get you ripped, your diet/cardio/training will. Your threads are all the same, and they should all be titled the same "tell me what I want to hear" . Best of luck finding the magic potion.

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GRIMEY's picture

do you? then why you think you need 3 compounds to get lean and cut? A little contradictory don't you think?

Anyways, Like I said, IMO run test and eq OR test and var and perhaps adopt VIKING's method in "wanna get ripped, read this" and That should give you the results you desire, best of luck.

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youngtricep98's picture

Couple things here.

1)Good job on waiting for tren. Not a compound that should be taken lightly.

2) stats?? You prone to high BP? Var and eq will raise BP quite a bit so be sure and monitor that as well. What AI's you have on hand? And what's your pct look like?

3) I'd raise that test e dose to 500. Everything else looks good to me. But can't give go ahead until I know stats and traing history, also look into gettin hcg. Cycles in the 20wk range are recommended to run with hcg

youngtricep98's picture

Try NPP first is what I'd recommend. It's trens lil bro.

youngtricep98's picture

Nandrolone phenyl prop. Awesome compound. No tren until like 8 cycles deep.

youngtricep98's picture

Cause I don't think your ready for the harsh sides that comes with tren yet. Shits not a joke.