posted Tue, 05/07/2013 - 11:44
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+ 3 Exemestane (aromasin) study on young males
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Definitely worthy of a read. One of the most interesting portions of the study are the dosages and effective half life and the fact it was performed on males. I've always been under the impresssion that stane has a half life around 24 hours, it seems that may not be the case. One of the most attractive aspects of stane is the the fact that it is a suicidal Inhibitor and that its use does not affect cholesterol or lipid panels which can already be affected by cycling in general. I'm not sure how I will incorporate this into future AI use. Check the link below and the link where I originally found the info
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/180274-exemestane-underd...
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just wanted to throw this out there. One of our sources sent me this a few weeks back when started having estro issues while running a low dose of aro
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/180274-exemestane-underd...
Aromasin is suicidal, like it has been stated, and it also becomes stronger the more you use it. Because its suicidal, u can crash estro easily which will NOT come back unless u use higher doses of real HGH, and if u don't have that then u have to wait 1-3 wks for your body to produce more Aromatase. If u crash your Aromastase enzymes even 100mg dbol daily won't spike your estro u Tim Aromatase is circulating through your body again. Taking aromasin EOD is fine as is ED, you have to find what works for you because everyone's reaction to aromasin is slightly different. Personally, 10mg EOD is plenty enough for me. Aromasin is a very interesting drug I just wish it didn't cause so much hairloss for me lol
I agree. I always advocate dialing your AI dose with bloods. For me 10mg ED is what kept me in the 20's. it took a while to figure that out.
PaladinMy unicorn is on 800 mg/week of Test-C and I give him 25 mg Aromasin and 1 mg Arimidex in liquid form every day but that is not enough. I started giving him 50 mg of Clomid in tablet form everyday as well and that does the trick to eliminate the bloating. I hate liquid research products because of dosing inconsistencies. I'm not sure what the solution is on this. Any thoughts, guys?
had similar problems. cant seem to get estro under control. I can take 2.5 letro 25 mg aro and 1 mg adex everyday and still have problems with poofy nipples. pisses me off. been trying to get rid of this lump forever. going to get a refferal to a doc tomorrow. C if i can get insurance to cut it out :(
PaladinHave you tried Prami or Caber? I used the Clomid and that stopped the bloating. I'm concerned because I'm about to start a Tren-A cycle and I'm not sure if the adex, aromasin, and clomid combo are the right way to go. I heard Prami but I'm not sure.
yea i've been running prami since the beginning. Its legit if u count the horrible sides that come with it... The sides were actually a problem before introducing the tren. im dosing my prami at .7mg ed right now. Was at.5 bumped it up to see if it made any difference. you want to pick caber or prami if your gonna run tren. I use prami because the cost difference. Caber is pretty expensive.
PaladinThanks bro, I appreciate the advice. I'm gonna get one of them for sure.
As for the bloating because of the test-c, the clomid tablets work great. I really, really hate liquids. I think they are far too inconsistent for something as important as an AI.
Careful how you interpret this study. Remember the selected age group were males ages 14-26...which are males at their peak levels of testosterone. Most of us are pumping our bodies full of test. Taking Aro with higher test showed a lower estradiol level being suppressed with both group 1 and 2.
JCEM has some of this listed right on the study on paragraph 3 of the discussion section;
The maximal suppression evoked by exemestane at the single dose of 25 mg in the present study was similar to published results in postmenopausal women, but the time course differed (24). Evans et al. (24) reported that a single 25-mg oral dose of exemestane maximally suppressed estradiol concentrations by 72% 3 d after administration, and estradiol levels returned to baseline only 8–11 d after drug administration. In the present study maximal suppression of estradiol of 62% was observed 12 h after exemestane administration and returned to baseline 3–6 d after administration. The reason for this difference is not clear, but may be related to the shorter half-life of exemestane in males, the lower exposure to exemestane, and the higher levels of the aromatase substrates androstenedione (∼1 ng/ml in young males vs. ∼0.5 ng/ml in postmenopausal women), particularly the much higher testosterone concentrations in young males than in postmenopausal women (∼700 ng/dl vs. ∼20 ng/dl, respectively) (25). This is supported by the observation that in the 10-d study in young males reported here, the suppression of estradiol is weaker (due to the very high levels of the precursor testosterone) than that of estrone (due to androstenedione levels not very different from those in postmenopausal women). A limited suppression of circulating estradiol (∼50%) has been reported in a similar study in young males treated with 1 mg daily anastrozole (7), a dose that reduces estradiol by 85% in postmenopausal women (23).
TAKE Aromasin Once daily in the AM.
That what is already known in medical use!
With the half-life in males of 8 - 9 hours, I'm now thinking to divide my daily dose into 3 doses and take it every 8 hours - 7 AM, 3 PM, and 11 PM. Thanks for the info!
RustyhookerTaking this info boosted by prior vets pushing every day dosing.....blood tests prove its strength and value.
If its half life is shorter like anavar....6.25 x 2 every day. I ean it thru cycle and pct. Loves it! Great read +1
i notice it says the terminal half life at being 8.9 hours , with a maximum of 12. definitely changes how ill use aro from now on. good read good find. thank you.
TropicanaJuiceTry reading this page bros there's se good studies done on males not females http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/history/topic/132184-1.html
Not sure if you can post another forum link? If not please remove and my apologizes
Buildbigger86It is a good read plus 1
It's all good Holmes. Info is valued no matter where it comes from
TropicanaJuiceYes I actually put a post about this and how aromasin might be stronger than letro but it's very informative
Buildbigger86Really can you repost that. I have never heard that before. Not saying your incorrect at all. Because if that is true i would love to learn why.
TropicanaJuiceThis was my post, don't think I had any articles I pasted http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-stro...
AnonDon't change the dosages based off of this. If anything split the dosages. I can tell u though my levels are within optimal range with 12.5mg once daily. If it ain't broke don't fix it
Agree me too
12.5ed while ON
OR MAYBE 25 EOD; depends on the gear and the user !
but Also say dont try to fix whats already working well! it just confuse people and EVEN WITH A12hr half life ONCE DAILY or twice daily dose is perfect!
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I dialed my AI dosage through bloods in my last cycle. I float between 10-12.5mg a day. I think I might split it up moving forward.
Buildbigger86Yes, i agree i do the same as most people on this site do i hope lol
Buildbigger86Allone, i actually had read the endojournals article on this a while back. i may have posted it, i cant remember. Anyway yeah it is a great article. Good post!
Good point. I should have looked to see if it was already posted. I don't want to clog the forums with repetitive shite.
Buildbigger86i feel you, you and i post's and comment of some many forums sometimes we dont have time to look for hours on a specific topic. Plus i in courage you members to post forums like this up because sometimes newbs dont know how to fully operate eroids and it is good for them to read up on info like this.
So good job in my book