+ 32 Primobolan What I Know
Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) is a mild anabolic steroid with extremely low androgenic effects. Primobolan can be combined with virtually any steroid but is best used for cutting. It is know to be "the safest of all steroids", it is not harsh on your liver and estrogen related side affects are almost none also high blood pressure is rarely seen as this is usually related to high estrogen levels. Because of the enanthate ester you need to inject twice a week to keep plasma levels even. Also do to the long ester it will take 4-6 weeks for primo to fully kick in and I recommend running it for 16 weeks. While you can run it for a shorter time,once you see the results you'll want to run it longer. The results from primo are quality muscle mass that will last long after your cycle is over, with proper diet and training you will retain up to 90% of your gains. Speaking of diet you can run primo at a lower calorie intake than you would on bulking cycle. High protein(I run twice my body weight) mid range carbs and low fat. Also lots of cardio I do cardio twice a day, after my workout then after dinner I run at the track for 3 miles this combination along with the primo really tightens up my mid section. Arnold's ability to keep such a tinny waist line was credited to primo.
What you can expect from primo: The best way I can describe the results is... It leans you out and makes you hard as concrete it rounds everything off also muscle striations become extremely evident. Your chest becomes broader and thicker, the line down the middle of your chest becomes very pronounced. Your shoulder get capped off, what that means is it looks like someone took a softball cut it in half and put it on your should. Your back becomes like a cobra along with a small waist line this makes your back look even bigger. Leg muscles become extremely defined, when I walk or better when I run you can see every muscle in my leg working to do that motion, (the best way I have found to describe this is in Rocky III when Rocky is running on the beach in slow motion).Now lets talk about dosages, 400mg/w is the lowest you should go. But the magic number is 600mg/w. The jump from 400 to 600mgs is dramatic but the jump from 600mg to 800mg/w is minimal and in my opinion does not warrant the cost, to me it's like throwing money out the window. Because of the cost of primo some people and me sometimes do to cash flow problems can't afford to run 600mg for 16 weeks. In this case I recommend running primo at 400mg for 8 weeks then bump it up to 600mg for an additional 8 weeks. This will save you around $200 for a cycle depending on how much your supplier is charging you. Last lets talk about running a primo cycle. This is where your thinking must change, you were taught to always use test as a base but with primo, primo is the base. You should run primo at 600mg/w along with low test. I have found 250mg is more than enough, the test is only to keep your boys happy. Running test at higher dosages leads to water retention and diminishes primo's affects. Trust me on this one I have tried all types of test along with running adex to combat test sides and I have found low test is the best answer also do to low test an AI is not needed. I have ran primo,var,masteron cycle, primo var cycle, primo masteron cycle, primo winstrol(injectable and oral) cycles, primo var and winstrol(injectable) cycle. While primo and var is a great cycle, there are 2 down sides, first it will cost you a boat load of cash to run it and second due to the fact I do a lot of cardio to help bring out the primo and seeing that var makes you cramp up I am not big on running var with it. My favorite cycle and also were I make the most gains is this.
Week 1-18 250mg/w Sustanon
Week 1-16 600mg/w Primobolan
Week 10-16 50mg/d Winstrol(injectable)
Week 8-16 100mg/w NPP(to help lubricate joints from the Winstrol).
Well without going into extreme detail this is the general idea of what you can expect from primobolan. I hope I helped.
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Good brother.. very good!... i have nothing to add you have it down right here
+3 my man.
thanks big guy, now that is a compliment.
One of these days... I'll add it to my list of things I want to do. Along with HGH. Maybe when a bottle of primo 250 is like 150 bucks then I'll do it!
Are there any hairloss issues with primo?
300 SavageI ran real primo for 6 moths no hair loss. It did get a little dry though..But when I added masteron at the end hair shedded a bit for sure..
very rarely. I have a reseeding hair line and have been using rogaine for years and my hair line hasn't moved. Its cheap no side affects and it works.
I sent FR. I don't think im prone to hairloss I just think harsh compounds like masteron winny and dbol cause thinning for me. Sounds like primo would not be bad on the hair compared to those but I guess I would have to try for myself and find out lol.
FR approved brother.
It's a DHT derivative...if you're prone to hairloss it could cause issues. Have you had any issues with hairloss with any dht derivative? e.g. masteron or possibly anavar or winny - that might be a good indicator.
Before I started loosing my hair I ran primo for a couple years with no effect on my hair line. Any type of side affects from primo are generally from people who are hypersensitive to DHT(which i have never met anyone who is that sensative)
I have taken anavar, anadrol, and proviron and each are dht. Zero problems. So far dbol pushes my hairline up. Also aromasin thins my hair
weird how I can run anadrol, proviron and anavar no problem but dbol and aromasin is horrible for me.
That's interesting...truly everyone's body is unique. It seems primo could be ok at least.
awesome Logan...
...softball shoulders and a cobra head of a back...I'm down!!
Yeah, this is quite a different cycle coming up than anything I have ran before...as far as workouts, I guess I can still push heavy weight occasionally? Like how I do now, I cycle workouts...such as every 3 weeks I do some real heavy sets, depending on bodypart...and won't go super heavy like that again for another 3 weeks. I between those kind of workouts, I vary exercise choice, and rep scheme. Any good pointers on that?
I keep my reps at 8 to 10 and concentrate on the negative just as much as the positive until that body part is on fire from the blood flow. Go for maximum blood flow with primo and pretty soon those pumps become your muscle normally. If it was safe to do so I would run it all year, awesome shit.
thx..appreciated the write up...great insight here and it answered some questions +1. one other item i'd be curious about would be primo ace as a possible kicker if u have any insight.
Sure you can kick start with primo ace, I don't just for cost reasons. My primo runs around $600 and adding the primo ace you could be looking at another 3-4 hundred dollars.
I was thinking it could possibly shorten the cycle (my preferences are shorter cycles whenever possible) but the tradeoff would be an increase in costs. Your point about the diminishing returns of 800mg vs 600mg is a nice cost saver btw. In any case, a kicker is still something I might consider when I'm ready for a run.
600 for the entire 16 weeks o-o? That's not as expensive as I thought it'd be
600mg/w is 3ml at 200mg per ml at around $150 for a 10ml bottle, so if you do the math you will need 48ml or 5 bottles for a 16 week cycle. That comes to $750 just for the primo.
I got 5 primo E 200mg/mL(10mL's) for $535...a certain 'End of the World' sale, Mayan Apocalypse. That price couldn't be beat....why do you think I am running this?...THAT is why!!!
I missed that sale SHIT!
That was an excellent sale...but the source seems to have sales around holidays and other times during the year. Just keep an eye out.