posted Fri, 09/23/2011 - 15:44
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Axio sus 450
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Took my first shot of sus 450 and holy shit does my ass hurt. It makes winny feel like the smoothest stuff I ever ran.Has anyone have experience with it?
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on a mg by mg basis nothing shuts you down like test as far as deca goes if you are doing something like that then run prop for the last 2 weeks to make the transition smoother. I like to run primo personally for the last 6 weeks, you retain almost all of your gains and the transition is smoother.
Yes but no where near like test. If you are on say test and primo you can't even com pair the two as far as shutting down natural levels.
ok, what about deca then...deca shuts you down 100%
You want to come off the longer esters first. For the sake of argument say you are taking Cyp. That ester will stay in your system for up to 1 month. If you start pct 2 weeks after your last shot of Cyp your test levels are still to high. Seeing that you want to bring up your natural levels ASAP get off the test first you will still retain what you have while still on lets say deca or eq.
But your test production is still being suppressed by the other anabolics you are running
Actually I have read the opposite on many sight, the test should be the first thing you come off of.
Care to explain the reasoning behind this? Every protocol I have ever seen states that test should be run longer than the rest of the anabolics in your cycle and I understand the reason behind it. I cannot see why you would want to come off of test first.
Took first shot yesterday but took half cc with half cc dpl4fifty.
Nothing but normal injection feeling so far.
I hope stealth satchets are the same as vials
You miss read what I said and the diet I had made for me was 10 years ago. I didn't think i had to get that deep into it and as for the protein I said I upped my intake by 150g because i wasn't taking anything not because someone told me as for my cycle-
Week 1-14 300mg EQ twice a week
Week 1-12 250mg Sus450 twice a week
Week 1-14.5mg Arimadex a day
Week 12-15 200mg hcg 3 times a week
Week 16 day 1 100mg Clomid
Week 16-60mg of Clomid/40mg Nolvadex
Week 17-18-40mg Clomid/40 mg Nolvadex
Week 19 20mg Clomid/20mg Nolvadex
You can believe what you want I know my body and I know what I am doing 6ft/185lbs/6% body fat an eight pack at 40 (natural stats) I gotta be doing something right
natural stats...but you take roids?
6% bf was that taken with callipers with 7 point? or was it water tested?
OP: Start with test...end with test.. taper off the others closer to the end.
Im a studying dietian and qual PT and with protein on a roid cycle you can pretty much go 4-6g/p-kg since your body intakes 30% more proteins. And the rest just gets pissed out. If your PCT includes liver clensing then its all good.
Generally a 100kg person can have 500g of protein sources without too much concern. (bear in mind the 200g of steak only merits 28% protein and you only absorb 15-18% of that - which is why protein powders are widley used since its absorbed easier)
When I am on I go up to 190lbs+ During the summer I get down to 3-4% bf from running 3 miles a day on top of 1 hour of weights and 1/2 heavy bag/ double end bag training. Yes my bf is with a calliper and I even went back and reviewed what I read and it says come off test first. If someone can tell me were to go to read different I would love to know. Like my profile says I am here to give advice and also get advice.
hey bro, general rule of thumb is to run Test 2wks longer than Eq
Anonyou have been in the game 20 years yet you need nutritionist to tell you you need to up your protein intake by 150g? if thats the case then you have been seriuoly takeing in a very poor diet for 20 years ,i mean comeon 20 years experance and not knowing how much protein intake you need?
anyway i am not basjing you man i am simply stateing the facts that itsimposbale togain 9lbs of muscle in one week ,ok you can take 100mgs anadrol for a week and maybe hit a9lb gain but how are they classed as gains if 99% of it will be lost once stopped?
another thing -
you say your weight fluctuates dramacitly ?
well i can weigh myself in the morning then last thing at night and i can be 9lbs heavyer than in the morning ,its due tothe food you eat and the salt and warter retension you will gain thouout the day
can i ask you a layout of your cycle and pct plan?
example
weeks1-12 500mgs test e per week
weeks 8-14 50mgs winstrol per day
day after last wintrol tab start pct -nolvadex and clomid
??
I have been at this over 20 years too. I am naturally lean with body fat at 6% My metabolism is ridiculously high if I don't eat 5 times a day I loose weight. My diet has been horrible for the last month due to many reasons but last week I started my diet that I had tailor made by a nutritionist plus upped my protein by 150g/day. My natural weight is 185lbs and when I started last week I was down to 176lbs. So don't put your house on it because its true. My body weight fluctuates dramatically if I don't eat properly.
Anon9lbs in one week? what are you takeing ,9lbs in one week shows a damm lot of bloat ,its totaly imposbale to gain anywere near 9lb of lean muscle in one week ....9lbs in one week? no thats not right at all ,i have been doing this for over 20 years and have a damm lot of experance and i would put my house on it that 90% of that 9lbs is warter and fat showng that your diet is ay off ,not only that gaining that much in such a short time is very unhealthy ,your blood preasure must be sky high
Took my third shot yesterday but this time I let it settle for a 1/2 hour before injecting it and I gotta say the pain today is nowhere near the pain of my first 2. Also I am up 9 pounds in one week.
Anonaxio havs mixed reviews ,syntrop are the same companyand while they started out with correct doseing it seems like with alot of labs there doseing drops the further into bussiness they go ,its a tatic used by many to overdose products then as time goas on start to drop there doseing ...
6/10 for axio and syntrop imo
ya im currently on it now almost done with my first botttle i shot this in the leg for the 1st time and i couldnt walk right for a week no bullshit but after my 3rd shot u could barely feel it so i jumped i wanna say 15 pds in about 3 and a half weeks not bad plus i fuck 2 to 3 times a day now im doing 2cc aweek and im only 190 at 511 around 15 percent body fat most i ever been