+ 32 Primobolan What I Know
Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) is a mild anabolic steroid with extremely low androgenic effects. Primobolan can be combined with virtually any steroid but is best used for cutting. It is know to be "the safest of all steroids", it is not harsh on your liver and estrogen related side affects are almost none also high blood pressure is rarely seen as this is usually related to high estrogen levels. Because of the enanthate ester you need to inject twice a week to keep plasma levels even. Also do to the long ester it will take 4-6 weeks for primo to fully kick in and I recommend running it for 16 weeks. While you can run it for a shorter time,once you see the results you'll want to run it longer. The results from primo are quality muscle mass that will last long after your cycle is over, with proper diet and training you will retain up to 90% of your gains. Speaking of diet you can run primo at a lower calorie intake than you would on bulking cycle. High protein(I run twice my body weight) mid range carbs and low fat. Also lots of cardio I do cardio twice a day, after my workout then after dinner I run at the track for 3 miles this combination along with the primo really tightens up my mid section. Arnold's ability to keep such a tinny waist line was credited to primo.
What you can expect from primo: The best way I can describe the results is... It leans you out and makes you hard as concrete it rounds everything off also muscle striations become extremely evident. Your chest becomes broader and thicker, the line down the middle of your chest becomes very pronounced. Your shoulder get capped off, what that means is it looks like someone took a softball cut it in half and put it on your should. Your back becomes like a cobra along with a small waist line this makes your back look even bigger. Leg muscles become extremely defined, when I walk or better when I run you can see every muscle in my leg working to do that motion, (the best way I have found to describe this is in Rocky III when Rocky is running on the beach in slow motion).Now lets talk about dosages, 400mg/w is the lowest you should go. But the magic number is 600mg/w. The jump from 400 to 600mgs is dramatic but the jump from 600mg to 800mg/w is minimal and in my opinion does not warrant the cost, to me it's like throwing money out the window. Because of the cost of primo some people and me sometimes do to cash flow problems can't afford to run 600mg for 16 weeks. In this case I recommend running primo at 400mg for 8 weeks then bump it up to 600mg for an additional 8 weeks. This will save you around $200 for a cycle depending on how much your supplier is charging you. Last lets talk about running a primo cycle. This is where your thinking must change, you were taught to always use test as a base but with primo, primo is the base. You should run primo at 600mg/w along with low test. I have found 250mg is more than enough, the test is only to keep your boys happy. Running test at higher dosages leads to water retention and diminishes primo's affects. Trust me on this one I have tried all types of test along with running adex to combat test sides and I have found low test is the best answer also do to low test an AI is not needed. I have ran primo,var,masteron cycle, primo var cycle, primo masteron cycle, primo winstrol(injectable and oral) cycles, primo var and winstrol(injectable) cycle. While primo and var is a great cycle, there are 2 down sides, first it will cost you a boat load of cash to run it and second due to the fact I do a lot of cardio to help bring out the primo and seeing that var makes you cramp up I am not big on running var with it. My favorite cycle and also were I make the most gains is this.
Week 1-18 250mg/w Sustanon
Week 1-16 600mg/w Primobolan
Week 10-16 50mg/d Winstrol(injectable)
Week 8-16 100mg/w NPP(to help lubricate joints from the Winstrol).
Well without going into extreme detail this is the general idea of what you can expect from primobolan. I hope I helped.
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RustyhookerSince: Aug 20th, 2011
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50p/30carb/20fat is good for primo? or reduce carbs even more? caloric surplus bulking on primo? in your opinion
What if I run my primo let’s say between 1000mg and 1500 a week? I have 10 bottles of it. This is the only thing I have never taken including tren hex. So I’ll be running both.
Great post. I was very interested in running primo and after i read this and some other forum posts i will definatley be adding primo to my next cut cycle. Thanks bro for all the info.
DobermannFr send would like to know where u get ur primobolan if u dont mind sharing thnx bro
Great post! Thanks for the info
Bump... a lot of interest in this myself!
Great post saved this to my favorites a long time ago. Sent you a FR. Would love to be able to ask you a few things once I get all the primo I need for my cycle.
Fr approved anything to help just let me know
300 Savage10 weeks in on a 700mg per week primo cycle..just starting to see results..10 weeks to see anything..
Hit me up to talk. 4 weeks in and my veins are poppin.
300 SavageI understand Logan..but im talking fully kicked in..this is my 3rd primo run..I know what im looking for..6 weeks ya its working for sure..but not fully kicked in..
6 weeks at the worst. Either underdosed or fake. Maybe eq. Primo is the most expensive of all. The most faked, what is your source?
300 SavageNo its real..and no 6 weeks is way too soon to see good results..
Enanthate ester kicks in fully at 4 weeks then 2 more weeks to start seeing serious results. At 10 weeks you should be cruisin. Something ain't right. Just my experience with primo. Been jamming it for 15 years
300 SavageWell for sure you have way more experience then me..but im telling you.. im looking real good at 10 weeks..
I find the more you run it the better you look. I wish I can drink it like water everyday. You are right at 10 weeks you look better at 15 even better and at 30 weeks even better but scientifically what happens in your body is what I described.
300 SavageYour on point... for sure Logan..
Keep in touch. I like primo users. Everyone now a days is tren tren tren. That shit will melt your organs. But people want fast gains and it comes with fast side effects, primo is flat out for people lookin for long term effects. Have a great weekend
300 SavageWill do Logan..I have a few more months on this cycle..
Remember test at 300max 250 is perfect. And I will ad best gains I got on legs was biking on a race bike 20 miles after dinner on primo. One day you wake up and you jeans are skin tight. Gotta go shopping. Great feeling
I'm 6 weeks in on my 1st run with primobolan 650mg/week and was kind of starting to wonder, would I see or feel anything. I've seen several posts with guys claiming it took 10weeks to see a change.
It is an Enanthate ester. But six weeks it should fully kick in. I start seeing good results by week 4. Very vascular but I do have very thin skin and everything starts rounding off just like I describe in my post. Hit me up with any questions
300 SavageYa primo takes awhile..
I planned my late summer cycle EXACTLY like that! Im glad you confirmed pretty much everything about this cycle. Great job!
Ive tried primo 500mg and didnt notice it on the mirror, but now on pct gains are still here. I keep most of my strength and im even getting more reps in some exercises.
i dont think i would always run it because of the price, maybe once in a while and if its on sale
Excellent write up bro
First time using primo. Running it at 7/800 mg a week alongside 250 mg test e. It will be a 20 week cycle. First two weeks I'm front loading it at 1000 mg. not looking forward to putting 11 ml of oil, 10 ml being castor oil a week, nor putting 8 ml in me for 20 weeks but it is what it is. As my first run with primo I have decided to go full pharma. All (EDIT) Amps. I will also possibly be adding anavar at 30-40 mg a day for 6-8 weeks but am still undecided on that. Cannot wait!
Jbrit1212Darth is right. 22 gauge or less for this. The pin may hurt a bit but you r not getting that thick ass shit in a slin pin let alone in you after
25g is g2g on pharma amps if you heat the barrel on a heating pad before you pin.
I edited out the brand name. I left it up long enough so that we were all on the same page. As far as why not front load? Because it is going to build up on its own anyway, primo takes time to catch up regardless how much you pin IMO, also since it is an exceptionally thick oil (that brand) you will not be able to use slin pins and even 25's push super hard, why burn up all your pin sites when there is no reason?
This stuff might be the thickest oil I've come across. Luckily I read a few of your posts on here how thick this shit is. 23g seems to work pretty well with them. I'm shocked there isn't any pip, considering how thick it is.
Do you think 12% bf would be to high to run primo?
300 SavageNope ran a primo cycle at 15% and looked great..But I also ate fairly clean..was running 800mgs per week..and at the end I threw in 4 weeks of masteron 100mg every other day..Looked tight...
you could............ but you will get way better results if you can start at 10 or less.
the whole thing about running primo is to aim for the lean/hard finish so that means a very clean diet should be employed on cycle........... anyone who doesnt tighten the diet up when doing a proper primo run is simply throwing their cash down the shitter imo.
300 SavageI agree with your reply for sure..Clean diet is a must for good primo results..
Viking is completely right on this. I have been experimenting with diet and primo and it is amazing how a few weeks one way or the other make big differences in my own appearance.
Jbrit1212Agreed. I'm on primo now at very low bf and it has been amazing for me
Can you elaborate on this little more.
Thank you for your response Viking. I'll hold off a little bit longer until I'm down to 10% to get the best possible results then. Dieting never seems to be a problem for me at all. Hopefully I'll be down to 10% in the next 60 days or less.
How about some pics when you do bro.
Will do Brotha. I'll date the before/after n a picture from my previous cycle last year.
Sweet!!
Thats the way to do it bro...... classic eroids proof is in the pudding before/after pics and a little info how the cycle went, would be nice to see how you adjusted your carbs for the primo ,,,, many serious people can learn loads if you do it this way.
Im bored with reading all these cycles that get posted by guys and then we never see them again!!
+3 and good luck with the cycle
Thank you for! Im thinking I should be lean enough to start around the end of March/early April.I'll keep you guys posted on when I start it up.
Very true. Didn't think about that aspect of it. I loaded a test pin today just to see the viscosity of the oil and wow. That stuff is thick! I used a 25 and even that took over a minute to fill just one amp. Can't even imagine how long it's going to take to IM. Already liked using a 27 or smaller but idk if that's going to be possible with this stuff. Slin pin is def out of the question. Lol. I also had another question. I saw you post below about the mL ratio in the amps( another reason I filled a test pin) and I had about 1.25 mL of oil. Sure the .05 will get wasted in the pin tip but the other .2 percent is where I have the question. Is this oil made to equate 100mg exactly per 1 mL. making the 1.2 equal 120mg? Or is the amp itself and all contents of 1.25 ml equal to 100 mg. I've searched the web and Bayer site but cannot find a definitive answer. Thanks for your help bother and taking the time to get back with me.
I was wondering the same, why all my amps contains 1.25ml instead of 1ml as it says on the label. I thought pharma grade suppose to be very acurate with their dosages?
Gives you some wiggle room so you are not trying to suck up every little last drop just to get a ml in the syringe.
It says 100mg per ml. That is the only evidence we have to go on, so if you are measuring 1.25 ml it is likely 125mg.
And you will find anything more then a 1" 25g will be a workout,lol. I still can use a 25g 1.5" but you will pushing hard and leaving indents on your thumb.
The primo I had pushed easily through a 27g 1 1/4. Plan on getting some more here soon. Love the shit.
Yes, so far it is only the one pharma brand that is impossibly thick.