posted Sun, 09/02/2012 - 15:50
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Prop, Cyp & Dbol pct info
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im on 12+ week cycle Prop and Cyp last month or so Dbol
as i understand it:::::
15 days after last inj.
START PCT as follows:
1-5 weeks clomid 25-50mg/ed
Nolva 20mg/ed
arimadex .5-1mg/ed
i am curious as to the accuracy of this info before i dive into pct aswhell as suggestions for my next cycle and most importantly WHEN TO START MY NEXT CYCLE???
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good gains. very good gains on bench +70lbs or so i am maxing more than last cycle.
yeah they will be here before the 14th which is my pct start date.
but i will definitely be more prepared next time I'm trying to get into the forums more
symptoms as with last time a little sensitive these last two weeks
but. i remain cautious and refuse to drag this out any longer. experiencing some back acne for the last few weeks
curiosity what is the science behind waiting 2 weeks for pct? why do some other tests have a longer/shorter wait period
I advise you for the next week in all your free time, to study all there is to study on these forums, learn all you can, that way your cycles will go a lot better in the future and you will keep most of your gains, it's okay to ask questions, but seems like you need a lot of studying, take in everything! Go study these forums like the bible for a week
acne could be an estrogen side, are you running an ai? pct is started after the compound has cleared your body so that isnt interference with you natural restart of lh,test,fsh. they are different because the half lives of different esters are different. longer ester means longer active life
also, pct: clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
AnonLook up test half lifes. that will explain. this is all pretty simple stuff but studying and asking us these questions is the key to the gains you want to see.
AnonYou should have had your PCT on hand bro. You never know what can happen. If this is your second cycle me and a lot of others disagree with this. I wouldnt start adding oral compounds until 5th cycle. Stick with just test for a while.
i dipped my feet in about two years ago with dbol tabs then advanced to cyp & prop carelessly added sus to that cycle and had major side effects.. breaking out & loss of sleep kinda threw me for a loop. but this go round its been much smoother. i did have a guy walking me thru and getting me my gear the first go round which i did dent have this go round. I've just been using info gained online this is my first forum post
Anonthere is a lot to cover on here and we are all glad to help. but next time before your cycle let us know cause we could save you some trouble and there is a lot of [eople with a lot of knowlage. Dont learn things the hard way.
2nd cycle i did the same last go round i had surgery right on PCT and couldn't workout for awhile lost gains to say the least! i want to ensure that docent happen again... i took my final inject the 31st about to order my pct
Any gyno symptems?
Pct:
Clomid- 100/100/50/50
Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Any good gains off this cycle bro?
Please tell me you're joking!? You always should have PCT ready before you even start your cycle, this is the first thing you get, along with an AI such as arimidex or aromasin!
EXACTLY!
Is this your first cycle? Wat week are u in ur cycle?
If it is thats a lot of compounds bro...
AnonI agree. but people are going to whatever you tell them not to do. if this is his first cycle then i would suggest just the test.
curious if i don't run the arimidex during the cycle do i run it during pct>? or is it not really needed?
Are you gyno prone bro?
Stats plz!?!??
dbol at end i got the milk thistle.
i like to plan ahead
What for my next cycle?
You really should have studied a bit more before starting, should have done dbol first, or actually even better just Test and prop as a kicker, dbol is used as a kicker until the test kicks in, and no you won't need to use an AI while on pct, nolvadex is enough, you should have been running the AI while on cycle so you could have kept estrogen at bay! And for next cycle I would go with just Test Enan 500mg split dosages, and test prop 100mg eod for 4 weeks!
AnonPut the dbol at the beginning. it helps kick start the cycle especially since you will use the prop and the prop has a quick kick in time. dbol has a half life of about 4-8 hours. but take it evenly through the day to help keep steady blood levels. what are you goals and give us some stats on you.
AnonIf i were you i would do it like this
weeks 1-4 test prop 50mg EOD
weeks 1-12test cyp500mg a week split dosage
weeks 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
then PCT 15 days after last shot as described below.
AnonAre you running the dbol at the end or beginning of your cycle? you need to run the dbol at the beginning for 4 weeks. get you some milk thistle for liver support.
MultipurposePct starts 2 weeks after last test cyp shot and goes for 4 weeks(clomid 100/100/50/50mg nolva 40/40/20/20) And time off = time on + pct, so you're looking at 18 weeks off until next cycle.
no no no the pct is all wrong! Glad you posted on here before you started it, PCT should be as follows!
15 days after last injection is correct
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
no need for the arimidex that is for on cycle to keep estro at bay! Hope this helps
for next cycle it is time on+pct=time off, so if you run 12 week cycle and have a 4 weeks pct, that would be 18 weeks, you need to wait to do next cycle!