posted Thu, 09/13/2012 - 19:00
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Toremifene & Tamoxifen pct doses????
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what should the pct doses look like for tore, tamo???
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what should the pct doses look like for tore, tamo???
Supernova283Toremifene is an antagonist in uterus, breast and hypothalamus. Tamox already blocks estrogen in the uterus and breast so taking tor with tam would be redundant.
The antagonistic characteristics are less than clomid in the hypothalamus though so a low dose of clomid would help with that.
So you can either just use toremifene, or you can use toremifene and clomid, but tamoxifen and toremifene would be overkill.
I've never ran the compounds, but I've seen doses from other people who claim good recovery like this:
Toremifene: 120/90/60/30 and 90/60/60/30
if you were going to add clomid I'd suggest running it low dose with the lower toremifene dose so like
Tor: 90/60/60/30
Clo: 50/25/25/25 or 50/50/50/50 if you feel it's not doing its job well.
cdaddy7Not to be ugly because you gave good info, but that's bad business to give advice to something you haven't done or willing to...Our personal experiences are posted with information and research to back the claims bc in the world of AAS it's broscience not clinical studies performed at a hugh university...Your input on the reasearch is great but you have no authority to suggest a cycle based on someone else's history for the fact you don't know the person that did it personally nor the outcome...It's dangerous to advise like that IMHO
Supernova283No, but I have to assume that when I've seen 20+ users swear by toremifene it's probably okay.
Clomid is tried and true, and the manufacterers have said that toremifene is antagonist in breast, uterus, and hypothalamus and agonist at the bone.
So if lots of people like it and the drug is clinically proven to do something that stimulates LH and FSH production then I don't think it's that bad.
I mean obviously dosages are a little harder to do when drug effectiveness is by kg bodyweight, but most people around here are at least 150 so it shouldn't be too dangerous.
zewiPCT should be...
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova(Tamoxifen) 40/40/20/20
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