Friend needs help (been running a cycle for over a year straight)
Hey everyone,
Let me just say that this is for a friend (albeit, one that isn't the brightest), but a friend nonetheless.
So, I was talking to him the other day and I asked him what he was currently taking. He say's Dbol, hgh, and 1000mg of test/week. I was immediately shocked that he had progressed to HGH already, considering his first cycle was just a little over a year ago (test cyp for 10 weeks). He has always been a hard gainer so I guess this prompted him to just keep taking different compounds with no regard for PCT. Not smart. So, I asked him how long he cycles off in between these different compounds. He responds...I don't know a couple weeks. I told him that this is a serious health concern at this point considering that he basically never stopped his very first cycle. He's 26 btw. I told him the he needs to cut the dbol and HGH; and whenever he decides to come off he needs to taper it down to about half the 1000mg of test for the last few weeks and then possibly use Nolva and Clomid for PCT for about 4 weeks yada yada yada. However, I don't know enough about this stuff because I always follow the necessary protocols when I cycle.
His Stats:
25/26 yrs old (25 when he started, 26 now)
about 185 when he started, 215-220 now.
BF no idea. Haven't seen him in about a year.
No joke guys, his first cycle was in March of 2011 and he hasn't taken more than a couple weeks off for over a year.
SO...any advice??
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zewiHis ass needs to get on here. ASAP!!!
the human body is resilient bro, so it isnt the end of the world. that being said, it is also never wise to abuse the shit out of it. at this point, your buddy seems to like to do whatever he wants to do. I've been there, and I've had friends that have been there...
I would suggest an honest chat about coming off for the sake of his future gains (put it in terms he wants to hear... give him a chat about receptors and shit, even though the real issue is health concerns).
The hgh is fine (almost recommended), and he can continue to run it through pct and afterwards. It may give him some peace of mind while coming off AAS. IDK where he is currently, but he will want to drop to 2iu/ED for pct and afterwards
He will want to drop the dbol and run a pct 2 weeks after his last test inject, whenever he decides he wants that to be. i know for me, living in northern US, winter coming up is the perfect time to PCT.
For someone on that long, HCG is a must. I would recommend an HCG blast for 10 days (500iu's/day). It'll get his little guys sparked up again. This blast will end 4 days before pct. Essentially, begin the HCG blast on the same day as the last test inject
PCT protocol will be clomid/nolva 100/40 splits for 2 weeks and 50/20 splits for 2 more.
6 weeks after pct he will want to goto www.privatemdlabs.com and purchase the female hormone panel (it is literally 100$ cheaper than the male panel with all the same important readings). tihs will give him a read on his natural levels and if they are in normal ranges.
All that being said, your buddy will do whatever the fuck he wants. The reason for this long post is i have no idea if "your buddy" is actually "you," so if you're freaking out, don't bother. its not the worst tihng ever. This is just my advice to anyone who has been on for like a year or more. It happens.. life gets away from some dudes. it isnt the end of the world, but can be corrected before it gets too fucked up, and isn't something anyone should get in the habit of without understanding the consequences.. good luck brother
Thanks for the response. It actually isn't me for the record. I just started a Test E and Deca cycle and am super pumped about it...and my buddy weighs more than me and it pisses me off lol. But, I will let him know because he honestly has never heard of an AI or HCG or anything like that so I just wanted to let him know what the hell to do, because I think at this point he is so worried about coming off that he just thinks...why not just keep on the Test? Whats it hurting? I told him about this site the other day because of the great info that it withholds.
Well I guess I don't have much to tell him then! I thought it would be a little more serious. I wanted to make him aware of was his whole body shutdown when he comes off. But, I suppose we will wait and see. Thanks everyone for your responses
Not shocked!... this seems to be the norm thesedays,he must feel good about himself so just let him roll with it... if he needs help tell him to log on here and have a chat with the eroid samaritans crew... hell! we even brought a dead guy back to life the other week lmfao!
All month its been trt clients and guys arguing lol
Life time of TRT
dexitrimI was on almost continuously for 2 years in my early twenties, with a break of a month here, a few weeks there, and no PCT until months after I came off. There were no forums or readily available info back in the late '80s. It was rough until I got a script for HCG. I bounced back, got married, had kids, got bigger naturally than I was when I was on. No trt was necessary. But his doc will figure out if his HTPA is fubar.