The kick
From what I've investigated, Test E takes about 3-4 weeks to really kick, right?
I've been on for a week now (3rd injection this morning), but I'm breaking out like a mofo. My shoulders and forehead look like pizza. It's almost not worth it...haha. I'm going to try to find something to take care of that, though.
Nevertheless, yesterday I put up 75 lbs more than I ever had on the bench. Is this really placebo effect? I've also gained 8 lbs exactly in 7 days, which I'm sure is almost completely water weight, right? That's with me only eating 3500-4000 clean calories per day. My macros are a 40/40/20 split. I feel strong as an ox and my recovery has been cut in half. I tore my back to shreds yesterday, but I think I could hit it again tomorrow.
This is crazy...best thing I've ever done!
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I dont come in here for a couple of hour, a couple of hours guys and see whats happened, people getting banned, a few thumbs down, damn I knew I should have stayed at home last night, nothing more entertaining then watching the Enforcers come in and excercise their rights to BAN lol, Where tread when ya needem ha ha
I am new here and trying to learn all I can. For the last 3 days I have been reading for about 10 hours a day. While this conversation did have some educational value.... ie the importance of educating yourself before beginning, how to play nice with the people that are trying to help. I really appreciated the comedic value, it was a nice break.
Supernova28310 hours a day? That's quite a bit bro. Maybe you should slow down a bit.
The info isn't going anywhere.
........... who the fuck put me in minus 4 for saying one thing in thiss thread? smh
Here Bro.....I'll pull you out of the hole.
Now can we all please go back to juicing?
Supernova283:(
See that. That's my sad face.
AnonI believe you got downvoted for thinking that what thundercats said to Ollie was funny
I gave you "NO" negative points...I didnt even give thunder, negative. I posted on another thread about members saying they gave another member points, but they dont say when they deducted points.
The MODS can see who is giving and takin Karma...I will track your commets all around and give points to you, where they a desereved.
Super, was at a real low karma, but he is workin his way back up really fast and thats hard, cause point whoring is not possible.
Supernova283Obviously you haven't seen the sexy photos I've been sending around. Real low cut shirts just barely showing my pecks.
Oh ED has been eating it up. I've been getting points galore. I'm such a karma whore.
i really dont understand this they let people abuse their power on new people, first i got sent to -3 worked my way back up to 1 and one post and im back to -4.
it doesnt really matter to me if people dont like me on internet but sources will look at your points and if youre red no one will believe your review and they can basically send anything they want or take how much time they want with their order
Building, your karma has its benifits and the MODS know who is giving and taking away..I learned that almost a year ago.
Supernova283You got a problem with being -4?
I'm a -4. You got a problem with the -4 you got a problem with me.
Supernova283Oh wait. Nevermind.
You start picking on -2 then we got beef. This time you're lucky.
well on a dif note i would be using some isopropyl alcohol on my neck , back, shoulders upper arms and even lightly on my forehead. Between showering as often as you can like twice aday hell maybe a swim in chlorinated pool and of course a lil u.v. helps . I dont have many so i guess it works for me.
Supernova283Yeah look what happened to Bin Laden.
I'm on 5th week on Gen-shi testo E 500. I did shots every 4 days, but now I'm gonna inject every 3 days. It's my first time with steroids.
At the begging, the first two weeks were beautifull as hell - I gained 2cm in biceps and got bigger in general, especially in shoulders. My friends were looking at me like WTF. But after those two weeks I don't see a special effects I got an 0,5cm in biceps more, or maybe not.
I know that was a water retention, but I have expected something more. And I have still this f*cking feeling I could get the same effects being OFF. Just don't want to go back to the same point as before pinning myself.
you should fill out your profile:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-importance-of-filli...
I would set 2 diffenr days of the week to inject, for instance mondays and thursdays, I would inject 250mg on each day. Being this is your 1st cycle I would keep your doses at a beginners dose. Your 1st 2 weeks was all you brother, the test e didnt have anything to do with your gaines. I have alot of experience with enanthate and can tell you that by week 4 you might start feeling the results but it might be closer to the week 5 mark. Test E is notorious for jacking up your blood pressure, at least it does mine and a few of my friends that uses what i use. Strength gains along with elavated bp is what I normal notice 1st when cycling with it, You might notice your vascularity has gotten more pronounced. Endurance and intense pumps will start showing their beautiful faces withing a couple more days. I dont know you nor do I know your lifestyle thats why we ask if youll fill out your profile, not to be an ass lol. Taking the shot is the easy part, make sure your diet is in check. Like I said I dont know you so dont get offended. Someone who has decided to choose this way as a lifestyle should also consider taking a step back to evaluate their daily routine and if they have a good eating schedule, we can work out all day long using whatever compound on here we can get ahold of and wont benefit hardly anything if your not giving your muscles what they need to grow how you want them to. Take it from me I wish I knew in the begining what I knew now and I would have saved myself a bunch of money and alot less headaches ha ha. You can ask anyone on here thats been here a while where i was when I started. It took me figuring out that their always something I can learn and asserting myself, pushing myself, and training myself to not get arguemenative when I had one of the senior members here tell me I need to take a step back and go do some more research. But then again like I said I know nothing about you, age, weight, goals, achievements, experience in the weight room. It could be as simple as underdosed test but it would definatly be easier to help you out if your profile was filled out. ;)
Sorry for forgetting to fill out my profile, did it right now and hope it will be enough. I don't write about diet and supplementation, because I think it is something normal if you want to get gains, and do not understand guys detroying their health while using steroids and not eating well.
At the second week I ended my creatine monohydrate cycle.
By the way I'm on vacation now doing my driver license, so got a lot of time for training and diet. But sometimes I got some stress (maybe I got f*cked up character, I'm easy getting mad, but controlling myself) and sleep not so good as I want to
I train 4 days a week, trying out "The Shotgun Method", love to train on heavy weights with low reps.
I spend a lot of money for my diet (rice, chicken breasts, tuna, etc.) and don't understand guys eating in fast foods, training when they want to and looking better than me :/
I gave you a point for filling out your profile, thanks, these guys are right though you can really screw up your hormones right now by starting the use of synthetic test before your body has completed its balance of natural test as you enter manhood. I am not one of the guys who will completely bash you for being younger I just want you to see the damage you can cause by starting to early. A good diet and broadening your knowledge of multiple training techniques then applying them will be the very best move to make. I think sometimes guys in their late teens-early20's get offended by someone telling them you shouldnt do this or do that because you feel like you are a man now which might be so and maybe its a combination of how the older veterians talk to these guys but best believe its just because they are trying to save you from a possible major mistake. 6-7 years down the rd it will be you telling these jitterbugs the same thing but for now trust that Im not just writing this because I like to type. I actually prefer to look at dirty picture of meagan fox and play scenario in my head how I could lure her to my house and convince her she's making a good decision if she would just become mrs. meagan f. popeboy, Im just saying
Supernova283That guy who worked with Megan Fox in Transformers said she was a huge c**t. Yeah she's so freaking gorgeous, but I'd keep her as a mistress not a wifey.
To each his own though ;)
Can take you a low dose AI, to help manage acne and water. Really helps with balance, start out low dose EOD or something see how you do.
if your just taking test, I would say it's most likely a placebo effect, but then again everyones body is different. dont start pushing too much weight just yet, save it for later. if you're breaking out like crazy and having bad sides, maybe you should look to lower your dosage or trying a different compound such as prop (pinning ed or eod). good luck bro, wait till you hit week 8, thats where the real results come in. body transformation
jasonhwere ya in good shape before ya started? at genetic max? i only put on 11 pounds on cycle 38 years old when did first cycle strength went way up but was strong in first place i dont know what my max is but like 355 flat (183lbs body weight) just wonder if you guys that say ya put 20+ lbs on cycle werent in good shape before started cycle.
I would say im in excellent shape. Not the most powerful guy, but I really don't lift for strength. I eat well, sleep well, and I'm consistent with working out.
jasonhid go with it if ya can lift it ,lift it but listen to your joints when they say enough stop even if ya feel like you can lift more, as far as the breakouts im sure some guys can give ya some good advice, ive been lucky and never had that issue,use a estrogen blocker!
I'm running test e as well right now, starting week four today, in hindsight if i ever run test e again Im gonna kick start with dbol, the waiting to kick sucks. Im up like 6 lbs. and strength is going up a couple reps, dude it sounds like the test e you got is the shit! I got mine from another board and am questioning the quality, so ordered from a source on here and just waiting for the mail just in case my gear is underdosed, but 75 lbs on your bench is impressive bro! keep us updated.
Yeah, it seems like something is up with yours. I definitely feel opposite of what you describe.
When i was younger i was more prone to acne. Sunshine helped me dry out.
Tanning like a mofo for the next 12 weeks
The placebo effect is a very powerful thing. Anyone here will tell you they experianced the same thing first cycle. Diet changes and increased intensity in the gym from being on cycle can go a long ways when it comes to gains. Sounds like you should tske their advice and start popping some adex to get everything in check. Just think bro, if its foing this well now, think about how good its going to be when it does kick around week 4!!
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I was just thinkin about the weight gain and strength, not the sudden hormone inbalance... Soz
Got that on hand; will start.
Everyone is different.
Older TRT guys with low Test levels will feel a Test increase quicker than the young bucks with normal Test levels (it's a % of increase thing).
The acne and the water weight are signs of good Test.
Off the record (and I never said this), it wouldn't surprise me if some sources add Test Prop to their TestE compound (maybe 200mg E, 50mg Prop), you feel it kick quicker and it gets the source better reviews!!,..............but I never said it !!
Anon75 pounds more on bench? That doesn't physically make sense and must be a typo.... As FCV said - definitely get on the adex. It took until middle of week 4 or so for my test E to really kick in.
No typo.
I've always had a severely weak chest. It all began with lifting for a while with improper form. Anyhow, I've never put up more than 180 on an incline bench (don't laugh), but this week I maxed at 255. I started laughing it was so unbelievable.
AnonThat's awesome - but I have to say and trust me i'm not blowing smoke this comes from experience... DO NOT start stacking on heavy weight just because you can all of the sudden! You'll end up with an aching shoulder in no time bro. IMO if your strength is exploding like that don't go below 8 reps on exercises that have had that serious of strength gains in this short period of time and don't freakin' max out! It doesn't serve any purpose other than to boost your ego... which is nice don't get me wrong but not worth the risk. Just looking out as I've hurt myself in the past :/
I'm not laughing either my incline sucks too lol.
Thanks a lot for the advise.
I'm definitely not an ego lifter. Sometimes I find myself not advancing when I probably should because I'm so worried about form.
Are u taking any D-bol, or anything else apart from the Test-E?
No, I'm not taking any other compounds at all.
Supplements are as follows: BSN stack; protein, n.o., cell mass, and amino x.
I don't know what to say then, I thought maybe u had been using a lil Dbol and forgot to mention it maybe... I don't see how u would be feeling it in a week. If u were using sus I would of said maybe it was a lil prop heavy possibly by accident or somethin...
maybe he just got a mislabeled bottle of prop, that makes more sence
Man, I don't know at all.
As for the bench, I've not tried to max out in a while. However, I know I've never come close to putting that much weight up.
I don't know at all, dude.