A Friend Who Won't Wait
Okay. My friend and I have been thinking about using AAS for a while. I am only 21 though, and I have decided starting now is a no-go. Yes. I know. Shouldn't even have been thinking about it yet... But honestly... Whose mind hadn't it crossed by 21? Anyway, I decided to wait it out for obvious reasons. My bro, however, wants to "do one cycle for now and not do it again for a while." How likely is that? I feel like if I were to pin and see the 20-30 lb first-timer gains I keep reading about... that I would obviously want to do it again. Seriously. How likely is it for someone to cycle once and wait a year or even two/three years before pinning again? Anyone here wait it out like that? Any info/advice will be HIGHLY appreciated. By the way, I am the one who actually researches and tries to educate himself about the shit. He wouldn't even know what PCT was if I wouldn't have told him. I'm partially worried that he is an idiot... And I am also partially worried that him being an idiot will fall back on me. If he goes through with it, I am going to have to help him through the process to make sure he doesn't fuck himself up.
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Put him on a cycle of some weight gainers and overloading creatine lol, all jokes aside honestly I can't give a bit of advice since the majority of it has been said below. Your lucky to find out about AAS at 21...I was on this site since I was around 16-17 and that was 2 years now and I seriously regret it (leeching etc until I made a account) not a day goes by where I think of AAS, I'm at a bad breaking point atm its all I think of...the only thing keeping me back atm is either researching or this forum...although one day that might'nt be enough, stay strong bro.. by the sounds of it you should just keep a eye on him.
Haha. I seriously did get him onto some weight gainers for a minute. -_- Dude won't even eat his food or sleep at night; Shit, he smokes a pack of cigarettes a day. I don't see how he expects to get anything more than an interference with his own natty test on anything else. Kinda wanna just slap some sense into him, but that hasn't worked once in the 7+ years I've known him. Ha.
God, I would not use it now. Test is already so high at that age. Honestly, as cool as it is to take synthetic hormones, I don't think I can quit now. I kind of regret having started. My sex drive is pretty dependent on synthetic test, and it's kinda pathetic. I have to take HCG just to pretend I have nuts. Possibly sterile for life. Not something to be taken lightly. I also know at that age I didn't give a shit and wouldn't listen to anyone. Youth really is wasted on the young, isn't it?
Damn. That sounds kinda rough. At what age did you start, bro? And, yes. I agree about the "youth/young" statement. I don't feel like I deserve many of the capacities/capabilities I am blessed with quite yet... I don't even have the knowledge to take advantage of all of them. I'm not stupid by any means, but I am 21 years old. I haven't been around long enough just yet. Ha.
I appreciate all of the comments/wise words, guys. I'll try to get him in here. Definitely would clear some things up. I'll keep you all posted on the situation.
Knowledge is power. Get him on here and lets work this out:)
You can't control others mishaps. At least get him on here learning.....
sgtstedankoThere's no 1 cycle & out. Once you pop, you can't stop. My 1st cycle was androsteindione? Creatine mono, & American whey protein powder. Have him try that. Research research research. Why to, & also, why not to : ( get your diets on dial, in the meantime
Once you pop, you can't stop. Haha. Pop-Tart reference. That made me laugh. Yeah, man. I am still working on the diet thing in check myself, and I know 10x as much as he does. I know I am not ready... And I don't think he ever will be. Creatine and protein powder do me justice. I try to tell him that. If he would just get serious, his gains would probably get serious. Maybe he will see with that UNLIMITED meal plan I'm gonna have in a month packing a few pounds on my skinny frame. Ha. Still a young gun. If I can't gain a few pounds with unlimited food, I'll have to accept that I am a retard like him.
sgtstedankoHaha; I was thinking of pringles : ) Read this, in its entirety. Especially the part on vita/mins, nutrition. Eat properly... Lift heavy. Rest. Lather rinse repeat. Look into whole goats milk. Seriously...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...
Ahhh! Pringles; not Pop-Tarts. Still young, and I already can't keep up with the times. What does that tell me about the future? -_- A good laugh either way.
By the way, that's some in-depth stuff! I'ma have to print that out and do my homework for a couple days. Thanks, man!
i agree brother. there is NO 1 and out. this is a lifetime/lifestyle commitment!
Dude i would get him a good test booster and tell him it dbol.. that and a good diet for a 23 yrold will b just fine
dbol is prob safer than most OTC pro-hormones. at least it has been clinically tested...
that being said, don't tell your friend (or if you are actually your "friend") to do shit. i wish i had half the natty test i had at 21. id just be fucking and growing!.
maybe have your friend post here? we can talk him down
gearwhoreIf i were you, i would keep your decisions from influencing eachother. taking this step is a life changing experience not just a body changing. every aspect of my life was affected on my first cycle. If he is going to do it he is going to. alot of people can only hold out for so long before they do something even if its PH's or orals. i definitely would get him on these forums and let him pick some vets brains. if he does insist on going through he needs to research his first cycle himself pct, ancillaries, needles. his training and eating should be down PACT before he touches anything. what are his stats? BF, Experience, Height, Weight?
Also, I must ask for my own education, what do you mean when you say every aspect of your life was changed? Well, I guess you mean just what you said... But I mean "how?"
Dude. Seriously, he doesn't even train seriously. This is his life: He works, eats like shit, drinks and parties on weekends, doesn't worry much at all about sleeping at night, and goes to the gym at like 11 pm at night to work something upper body. He is the epitome of the type of person who should NEVER touch anabolics. Here are his stats: 23, 5'11, 160 lbs, and retarded. I will try and direct him here, but I doubt he will even bother.
Eh he's not going to see shit from AAS then =/ drinking effects cycles and pct especially bad.. if he touches orals and he's drinking he might turn up in a hospital.. diet would make a huge diff for him.. show him smoothie recipes they're idiot proof and you just have to blend and drink and get a shit load of calories and protein.. I literally saw fuller muscles within 3 days of changing up my diet..
Educate him, knowledge is power. have him make an eroids account. let him research on his own, just guide him here. he will be more likely to accept what he reads and hopefully he will digest the vast amount of knowledge that is to be had here at eroids. Ton of vets here that are more than willing to work with you and him brotha.
Thanks, man. If you saw this dude, though, and heard him talk about anything bb-related... you would cringe at the thought of him and AAS. He is seriously uneducated as can be when it comes to training, nutrition, and everything. He is one of those kids who think they can shoot some shit into their asses and all of a sudden be huge. Drives me nuts. I'm just a young gun learning the ropes in the kitchen and in the gym, and it's like talking to a brick wall for me. I know enough to know I don't know enough. He just doesn't know anything at all. Kinda pisses me off if you can't tell.
id recommend him reading sgtstedanko's forum post "THE BASICS FOR THE BEGINERS HERE AT EROIDS". even you could read it brotha(not saying your uneducated). its long so id print it out but i personally learned a ton from it! covers EVERYTHING.
For sure, man. I've actually been reading it for the past couple days piece-by-piece. Haha. It's pretty fucking detailed. I feel even those who are much more educated than I could probably learn at least something from that post.
I mean how long has he been working out.. You have to dial down the diet and training for several years experimenting with how your body reacts to just food and training alone.. If you don't even know that about your body adding steroids won't do shit.. And he can't just go online and read, "if i eat this or train that" it works because every one is diff.. The whole point is experimentation with food and training.. not experimentation with needles in your ass.. that comes last.. If you can't stop him then make his ass get online and research.. No point in baby sitting someone older than you
I try to get him to read all kinds of stuff, but he is an idiot. I might just let him go with it and keep myself out of the whole situation. He is the kind of person who will do it anyway. You are right though. There is no sense in babysitting/guiding him through it. I donno, man. Thanks for the input.
By the way, he will be 23 next month... A little older than me, but less experienced in the gym as well. And obviously less educated with the hormones he wants to blast into his body.