Third Cycle Planning
Hey, guys. I made a post a while back in regards to this, but I only got 2 replies. Haha. Anyway, I am trying to plan my third cycle.
My first two have been test only.
The first was 10 weeks of Test E at 500mg/wk.
You can find my second (one I am coming off of in two weeks) listed in the link below...
( The first post I made in regards to third cycle planning...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/thinking-ahead-to... )
One of the guys who replied suggested Equipoise.
I have been looking into it, and it sounds like a good first non-test addition.
How would the more experienced of you suggest running it?
Like, how much test vs how much equi and for how long?
(Obviously long since such a slow compound but HOW long?)
Would you suggest a prop kicker to start up the gains? Taper to ease into PCT?
Basically, if this were YOUR third cycle (and you knew then what you know now) how would YOU run it?
Also, I am open to suggestions with AI dosage or HCG. I have not used HCG for my first two cycles, but I think I should start using it here soon. Again, open to any and all suggestions. Trying to go ahead and get it laid it and have everything ordered and in hand a while before I need it.
Thanks to all.
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Thanks for all the replies. Def have a lot of thinking and reading to do now.
I appreciate all of your help. Awesome stuff.
Why not run test E 12 weeks and Anavar for the last 8!? Anavar gives nice lean hard gains, tons of strength and is low on side effects! It's also known for helping lower bodyfat around the abs. Then you don't have to run a 20 wk eq cycle.
Just a suggestion but you can try eq , which is another good one
I will look into this too. Thanks, man.
Buildbigger86Homie pm rusty or myself. EQ and test is my shittttt
Do a front loaded 16 week Sust 500/week and Eq at 600/week (600 is a good starting point for Eq). Front load both of them and run the sust up to the end. Standard PCT applies and AI's on cycle if needed. You can also kick with prop if you want but do not taper with it. This is good because it keeps your additions to a min while giving you quality long term gains with the EQ. This allows you to judge your gains with Eq along side the test base. Get your bloods done before, middle and after and keep a log of your cycle. Remember to keep it simple bro.
Buildbigger86Ohh fuck my add. i didnt read enough i thought to do a nice eq and test cycle...
Going on my 3rd and either gonna run Tren or EQ. Still too terrified of deca
Scared of deca but thinking about tren? smh
RustyhookerX2!
From what I have read and been told, tren should be a little way down the road. I am def holding off on that one for a while. Going from test only to tren just sounds kinda, ehh, unnecessary at the least. Haha.
Tren's 500/500 anabolic/androgenic..
vs Test's 100/100... Too extreme for a third cycle.
Test E/C: 500-600mg per wk for bulking or 300-400mg per wk for lean muscle mass- Weeks 1-12
Equipose: 600mg-800mg per week-Weeks 1-15/16
Test Prop: 100-150mg EOD-Weeks 14/15-18/19 (Depending on your EQ time run time)
Same AI and PCT protocol
Hope I didn't overstep my boundaries with this one, just my recommendation, I'm not advanced user though, a lot of guys have much more knowledge than me.
Buildbigger86Well done
RustyhookerIve grown well on lighter cycles of test/eq. As well as bigger runs. Whats your stats? Goals? Start time?
And I am not trying to get too greedy. Slow and steady is good for me, man. Also, I saw another post about an equipoise cycle where VIKING suggested running sustanon for the test. Any thoughts about that?
RustyhookerWith sus....the longest ester matches the bold und ester. Just another variation where you can clip both eq/sus at week 16....prop for 3 week taper. If you go sust...try the 300Mg dose so halfing the test is easier.
For either cycle...blood test week 6 to dial in AI.
Aro pct is my preference
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.25 6.25
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 20...20...10...10
age 23, 187 lbs, 14% bf. Def a clean bulk. I have 2 weeks and 2 days left on this cycle, then starting PCT 3 days later... Usual 4 weeks 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20. I am going to stay natural for the summer and focus on leaning out a little bit with me few months off... Not a whole lot, because I already feel fairly lean... Maybe drop to about 180 but try and keep as much of the good stuff and strength as possible. But I will def be looking for some size when fall rolls around and I do get back on. I would like to get to 195-200 lbs without too much shit weight if I could... and I feel that should be reasonable.
Rustyhooker3rd cycle...clean. Starting off even then lowering test to finish clean works nicely. Eq has many options. Basic bulker depends on eq (bold und) or bold cyp in Weeks. Both are tasty.
600/600 will bulk you nicely. Week 11 the eq should be kicking, then you can decide bulk still or clean n hard.
Clean/hard
1-4 prop 100eod
1-12 test e 600 split
13-18 test e 300
1-16 eq 600
19-20 prop 100eod
To keep bulking just keep test up and big eater. Food controls gains of course. Test manipulation helps in wster control and cuts. I don't recommend frontload first time with eq. Let test add the beef! Prop will boost you quickly.
Bold cyp....stop eq week 12. Half the test at week 9-14. Prop kick/taper. Just slightly shorter run.
Buildbigger86Rusty plus 1 kid always take time to do it correct plus
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Thanks a ton, man! For both this and the Sustanon option you listed above. Extra thanks for detail. I will definitely take all of these options into strong consideration. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, thanks, and thanks.
RustyhookerSgtstedanko is online too so hope he pops in. his twist on eq is great as well. He's another lean bulker fan of eq
Oh nice layout...+1 if I could
RustyhookerNo need for karma but appreciate the high five!