posted Tue, 07/26/2011 - 12:10
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Noob 1st cycle guidance
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Whats up guys, I'm new to this. I have read lots and lots of info about everything and I'm ready to put together a cycle. I have ordered Testabol Enanthate 250 British Dragon, Thailand from steroidea, I mention the brand so you guys can maybe tell me if its g2g. I'v also ordered Clomid Hubei, Nolvadex Hubei, Pregnyl® 3x 5000 (hcg). I wanted to keep it simple and have all the pct gear. Basically I was wondering if I should use 250mg doses or 500mg does of the test. I just want a mellow intro cycle you know what I mean.
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you guys are awsome. I so glad I found this site.. for real
imo it would be best for you to shoot 500mg per week, thats 1cc on monday and another 1cc on thursday, thats everyweek for 10-12 weeks, use the hcg DURING your cycle not during pct. pct starts 3 weeks after your last injection. hcg can be used many different way, however i use it like so: 500ius every 4 or 5th day. if you start to see signs of gyno then use the nolva for that at 20mg-40mg everyday until it subsides. and as below hcg can bring up some gyno but it will not be that bad, remember that some estrogen is needed for good androgenic, and muscle growth.
and as some say below, i also use a AI while on cycle but it may not be needed until you seehow sensitive you are to the compounds. i would use either aromasin or arimidex if you choose to use one. letro will not be needed unless you have a very severe case of gyno.
AnonI guess if u take hcg during cycle it could give u gyro probs but I wouldn't use it that way I use it at the end, google William luellyns power pct program....just to clarify
AnonIf ur nuts shrink down u WILL need hcg to bring them back fast enough to keep ur gains, clomid does nothing for this, nova does a lil but not much. If ur nuts didn't shrink very much then maybe u could get away with the nova but then u prob weren't taking enough test.
AnonDont use hcg on your first cycle, it is like gyno in a bottle for some people. If you want to really keep it simple go for test e like suggested from hllwdbdboy;
Test e 12 weeks 500mg
Arimidex 0.5mg eod
Nolva 40/40/20/20 pct or clomid
ok.. no hcg then, and I shouldn't use nolva while on cycle? Insted use arimidex?
AnonBest use arimidex from the start and leave the nolva for pct. Dont slack with the adex start it day 1 at 0.5mg eod/ed all the way to pct.
hey bro, the standard first cycle suggestion is:
10-12 wks Test E (or C)@ 250 2xwk
...and nice to see you put together your whole cycle ahead of time...
do u have an understanding of PCT?
well I'm no pro but as I understand it I'll take novex while on cycle if I need it and hcg while on cycle about one a week maybe, then clomid about 2 weeks after last injection... simple version. feel free to offer any advice you may have bro.
there are several methods that many ppl swear by and are successful with.
me, personally, i would run an AI (i'm an a-dex guy) @ .5eod starting after 3rd wk, and run the nolva @ 40/40/20/20 starting 10-14 days after last inject (i don't use clomid) we have a section on PCT you may want to look into and maybe get some input from other members
Thanks for the help bro.. everyone on here is real cool.