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+ 10 No Excuses Sust/Proviron and RS Qtropin Results

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Alright. So admittedly I am at a loss here. This is actually the third time looking back through my labs, albeit different source, I have had significantly lower numbers than I have had in the past running Sust. At similar if not higher doses and for the same period of time prior to lab draws. Blood was drawn last Friday morning less than 48hrs prior to last injection.

As mentioned in SI the other week protocol has been 0.7ml (so maybe losing a little in the hub) of 87s Sust 300. MWF. Along with another source Primo 100. More so to help with the PIP than anything else. 6 weeks in. Plus Proviron 25mg daily. Dose was started at 0.5 MWF just the first week to assess tolerance and did try to go higher than 0.7 for a week or two (up to 1ml injections) but PIP was a little too impeding on training for me to continue so I backed down.

Going back through my labs I have noticed a decrease in my response to Sust over the years. Which is certainly odd to me. Labs from earlier this year Feb on Test Cyp 200mg once weekly put me a little less than 1100. At trough. 5 days post injection.

I do feel good. Certainly can’t say I feel like my recovery or strength is as if I’m taking the amount I’m injecting but that makes sense because obviously per my labs and recurrent history of labs with Sustanon at this point I think it’s safe to say my body is just not responding like it used to.

At this point I’m done with Sustanon. No discredit to the source at all. Considering this is the third lab draw with Sustanon from a different source and consistently lower than expected it’s fair to say it’s my body’s response. Not the gear. As at least 2/3 of the sources have been highly credible with lots of good lab work to back up their products. 87 being one of them.

I’m going to make the switch to Cyp as soon as I can, and redraw in another 6 weeks.

IGF-1 is consistent with my prior labs. Baseline is around 180. Qtropin 4iu once daily.

EDIT Labs added from Feb this year for reference TRT protocol as mentioned above with 3iu Qtropin Daily

EDIT 10/13 JANO RESULTS ADDED
Clearly, 87’s Sustanon is not to blame here. As I originally expected, and mentioned above, it is the way my body is metabolizing it. I’m dumbfounded by it. But again, consistent with prior labs over the years. I stand by my original post. I was injecting at minimum 0.7ml MWF for at least 6 weeks prior to getting labs done. I did not take any replacements. 87 comped me for sending in samples for testing to Jano.

Makwa's picture

Nice to see the Jano results.

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Gh0st's picture

I prepared and sent samples directly to Jano. 87 paid for the testing/order
therefore received results. That’s not taking control of testing imo.

I’ve tested poor on other labs Sust which has been posted here and reviewed as well but other sources did not comp for Jano.

I keep my labs up. Unlike you and your “many” labs over the years which you say you’ve had both good and bad and brought up here and in SI/reviews I’ve definitely not come across. Only labs I see are IGF-1 and kissing iron lions ass periodically.

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wanted's picture

Are you finally done runny any sust

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Gh0st's picture

Absolutely bro. No reason at this point. More frequent pins. More PIP. Lower serum levels. Generally little higher cost. Certainly don’t see a benefit to continue.

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Gh0st's picture

There’s no “control of findings”

Jano received blind samples. Tested those blind samples. Posted them with links. And reported them back to the client email that made the order as per his security guidelines.

Are you also saying the samples I tested previously on other sources, could be bullshit because I had control of them and therefor can rig the results somehow?

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eighty7's picture

And that means what to you? You think I'm in the lab at janoshik doing the testing? Stop going out of your way to sound stupid.

eighty7's picture

It's like he's reading and responding to so many comments on here that he gets confused and never makes any sense.

simonmagus84's picture

I wonder what the Ester breakdowns were from those different brands of Sust you used.

DeeMan's picture

From what I remember they all were basically the same. I think another was at 300mg/ml and certain ester amounts were slightly different than the norm. I remember alot of that stuff but Ghost can speak on that better than I

Gh0st's picture

I think from most recent lab last fall with Sust it was reported very similar ester breakdown (still up) and prior lab one of my go to for many years the standard Sust break down 250mg/ml results just lower than it had been in the past never even posted or mentioned it to him.

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DeeMan's picture

Yea I clearly remember the superhero brand of sust that u used. You said it gave you the worst pip too.

Gh0st's picture

Yup it was not enjoyable

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simonmagus84's picture

You ever try axio?

Gh0st's picture

No I haven’t bro. Not sure I’ve heard of that brand even.

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DeeMan's picture

hypocrisy at its best( last paragraph) +1

eighty7's picture

Why are you calling anyone a liar? You lie about everything. You lie about what you lift, what you've done, how obese you are. He's scored low on the Sustanon from multiple sources not just mine. No one ever said he's lying. I knew there was nothing wrong with the Sustanon just like there's probably nothing wrong with the Sustanon from the other sources he used. Maybe send some samples of you to janoshik.com to find out why you've been abusing steroids forever and have zero muscle with 50% body fat.

You talk about "what eroids was meant for" but all you do is try and sound like you know it all yet know nothing while posting pictures of girls who'd never bang you.

99F350's picture

Fix your shit 87. I stand with this idiot. Who in the fuk wants to buy gear slightly over dosed. It’s like when Rusty pays the hooker to show him her tiddies, then she flashes her cock at him for free. No one, and I’ll repeat wants more than promised. I’m just as upset as this idiot. Please, please 87 fix your shit. Sust that scores just over 300 is not what I want. 300 on the dot please sir. I’d think all the bribe money you paid to Ghost and Jano the labs would have been correct. God dang it I’m sooo mad I took up for you. You over dosing trash bag. When they elect this moron as king of eriods I’ll make sure he terminates your account. Last time. Fix Your Shit. Lmfao.

DeeMan's picture

Lol too funny

Gh0st's picture

Hahaha this was good.

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DeeMan's picture

Just to be clear since he's bringing up DC, that score was trash especially at 600mg a week. If I remember correctly you averaged around or above 2500ng/dL at 500mg week with a few other sust bloods correct? Then you had a few bad bloods. Maybe I'm confusing u with someone else. I haven't looked at any of your bloods just was thinking back. I kinda remember cause that's around the time that my interest in sust peaked

Gh0st's picture

No you’re right on the money brother.

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DeeMan's picture

Sorry no response needed brother but I just don't want folks to think this is a knock on 87, these are the facts. Personally I've used 87's sustanon as you know and it was one of my favorites of all time but that's my experience. Just being clear to those reading this

Gh0st's picture

I’m glad you can read numbers but clearly words aren’t a specialty of yours.

What was my pinning schedule for DCs Sust? Was it different? Did I get my labs drawn sooner after that lat pin? I also didn’t mention in that post that the last injection I did before labs, though I think I have it somewhere in PM with DC is, I even increased my dose.

So what happens when you pin more test and get labs drawn sooner? Can you get higher numbers? Your “simple math” and deduction of reason is bar none. You really should piss off at this point.

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eighty7's picture

Tens of thousands worth in steroids, long history of excellent bloodwork, to achieve the physique of an obese paraplegic.

https://www.eroids.com/pics/here-ya-go-pumpkin

Fix your problems before you worry about other people's.

DeeMan's picture

Imaginary lats on pic. And yea you are correct

eighty7's picture

Actually this entire time you've been a moron making little to no sense. Go fix your shit there's plenty going wrong. Go pretend to be an expert with new members who've never seen pictures of you.

DeeMan's picture

guess ya didn't see my comment below. I been putting it out there. Folks gotta recognize

DeeMan's picture

Like I just commented to @Ghost Rusty has got to be the most toxic guy around. He doesn't make eroids better he makes it worse. And everything you said was 100% true especially about him constantly telling lies and even worse he actually believes those lies. Everyone knows he lied on me and I wonder who else he's lied on, whether member or src. He says I'm your fanboy...nope I just speak truth and we both know that and he hates that. In fact I don't even like fanboys. Lol but anyways

eighty7's picture

I just sent you shipping instructions from janoshik

Gh0st's picture

Got it. I’ll prepare those today and see if I can’t drop them tomorrow before/after work.

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simonmagus84's picture

Ghost- you’re good with me and you were thorough in your review in admitting it might be how your body responds to the compound. Don’t worry about the members being critical. You’re a solid member with us who’ve been here and we appreciate you going the extra length. Ive been going back and fourth with members regarding the Sust debate for years now but guys like you and I might have to stick with test E/C only.

DeeMan's picture

You maybe right. Wasn't a big deal to me honestly as everyone has the right to their experiences. I always said let's wait on bloods, no biggie. And yea I love my test c but I always keep a stash of good ole sust. Works for some and doesn't for others

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I appreciate that brother. And absolutely right.

I have a Test E/Mast E/Primo E (200/100/100) mix laying around that I used for TRT briefly when I had run out of Cyp (and pulled labs on- similar numbers as posted above) and switched over to that currently. Not a fan because of the PIP but it’s already got Primo in it so it at least cuts down on the volume I need to pin right now for my cycle.

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DeeMan's picture

Not here to argue with you rusty, I just need clarification on your accusation about me, lol I can't sleep until this is clarified so...can you please

1.post the message that you supposedly sent to me about my 13-14 owed reviews ( you're not even on my friends list) and

  1. Please reach out to any src and ask them to politely post that I (dwayne44) am a "scammer" because we know they wont admit the "freebie" stuff. All I'm asking. This should be simple. If I'm guilty then I'm guilty, however if this is a lie then accountability is needed

I've never scammed, gotten freebies or owed 14 reviews....ever. Fact

Big Tone36's picture

+1 thanks for testing

Gh0st's picture

Welcome Brother

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wanted's picture

Ghost looks like you stated your case with bloods sorry these guys cant handle the results. There coming out the wood work to get ya. You know what you bought, you know what you injected, you know the bloods dont lie. Goodluck man

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Gh0st's picture

Right? It’s exhausting. I do hope Jano testing does come back on point though. Just to back to my original theory. Because that would make more sense to me even if it doesn’t make much sense, lol.

And hell I don’t have a problem with the source. I’m not here to bash anyone. Clearly written in the post and review it was quite the opposite. Just call it like I see it. But if it’s not 100% positive they can’t handle it for whatever reason.

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