+ 10 No Excuses Sust/Proviron and RS Qtropin Results
Alright. So admittedly I am at a loss here. This is actually the third time looking back through my labs, albeit different source, I have had significantly lower numbers than I have had in the past running Sust. At similar if not higher doses and for the same period of time prior to lab draws. Blood was drawn last Friday morning less than 48hrs prior to last injection.
As mentioned in SI the other week protocol has been 0.7ml (so maybe losing a little in the hub) of 87s Sust 300. MWF. Along with another source Primo 100. More so to help with the PIP than anything else. 6 weeks in. Plus Proviron 25mg daily. Dose was started at 0.5 MWF just the first week to assess tolerance and did try to go higher than 0.7 for a week or two (up to 1ml injections) but PIP was a little too impeding on training for me to continue so I backed down.
Going back through my labs I have noticed a decrease in my response to Sust over the years. Which is certainly odd to me. Labs from earlier this year Feb on Test Cyp 200mg once weekly put me a little less than 1100. At trough. 5 days post injection.
I do feel good. Certainly can’t say I feel like my recovery or strength is as if I’m taking the amount I’m injecting but that makes sense because obviously per my labs and recurrent history of labs with Sustanon at this point I think it’s safe to say my body is just not responding like it used to.
At this point I’m done with Sustanon. No discredit to the source at all. Considering this is the third lab draw with Sustanon from a different source and consistently lower than expected it’s fair to say it’s my body’s response. Not the gear. As at least 2/3 of the sources have been highly credible with lots of good lab work to back up their products. 87 being one of them.
I’m going to make the switch to Cyp as soon as I can, and redraw in another 6 weeks.
IGF-1 is consistent with my prior labs. Baseline is around 180. Qtropin 4iu once daily.
EDIT Labs added from Feb this year for reference TRT protocol as mentioned above with 3iu Qtropin Daily
EDIT 10/13 JANO RESULTS ADDED
Clearly, 87’s Sustanon is not to blame here. As I originally expected, and mentioned above, it is the way my body is metabolizing it. I’m dumbfounded by it. But again, consistent with prior labs over the years. I stand by my original post. I was injecting at minimum 0.7ml MWF for at least 6 weeks prior to getting labs done. I did not take any replacements. 87 comped me for sending in samples for testing to Jano.
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I only saw one person dispute his claim. Others stated their experience
cim131313Something has to be wrong here . I ran his sust at 200 per week as my trt and my numbers came back over 1500.
Like I stated I ran his sustanon and got great results too.The Jano test will show us all.
i agree.
i have made solid gains of 87's sustanon and dbol run
Nice. Those are numbers I would expect!
Yeah idk man. Like I said originally I think it’s gotta be me and my response to Sustanon, as much as that may not make sense. But I’m educated it’s certainly Not my protocol with injections or timing of lab draws. Been doing this many years now. Contributed a lot of blood work here.
cim131313Very true. I burned my receptors too a little . Because the first few times I ran test e at 500 my numbers were about the same and now I have to run 750 tinge the same numbers. I hope everything works out for you.
Your last five reviews you have rated quality low. You also state last three blood drawls on sust have been low, from three different sources. This looks like a pattern or something you are possibly doing wrong. I find it hard to believe so many negatives from many different sources from one person. Have the other sources paid for testing and also comped you/free gear?
RustyhookerSo youre the boity smoocher type wants to boost sources reviews for freebies.
Makes sense now
I'm still waiting on that message you're supposed to post that you sent me with my owed 14 reviews on it. I don't understand how are you going to make a false claim and not show evidence of that claim? Instead you tell me to post something in which you never sent to me lol. You have a history of making false accusations. Again if you don't have the evidence you should be suspended my man. Sorry but it's slanderous accusations. Admit u were drunk and confused. No other explanation to this.No place for false accusations on eroids. This is ghosts post so lets show respect, so all I have to say. I'll be waiting on that evidence. No more to say. @Rustyhooker
I would not expect you to have the reading comprehension to understand my post. Some people expect way to much from gear. I have seen people mad that they didn’t get ripped and gain 30lbs from an eight week cycle off a 10cc bottle. Someone that leaves more negative reviews than positive is obviously having a “bad” experience. You believe he’s gotten three different cycles of bunk sust, from three different sources? You believe the last five reviews are accurate? I would have to speculate if they are accurate, something is wrong more so with the individual, not the sources. Exactly how am I a “booty smoocher” when I ask these questions? I move a lot of gear local and deal with people that flat out lie to my face. The bottle only had eight cc, I can’t taste the Winny in these tabs, my skin is super oily it’s bad stuff. These three are in the last week and everyone wanted it replaced or traded out. I can only imagine what sources deal with.
RustyhookerI see youre reviews posted and youre on here fanbiying up a source. Every brewer has had a batch or two that tested low. Yet youre calling a good member a fraud in order to make a source look better. As if brewing errors never occurred to you. You know...all that GMP processed hit plate in a microwave items.....
Its called science and the labs posted were trash.
Evrn more amazing is every steroid site on earth cites janos as a scam yet here you are. As if its beyond your small comprehension for a source to submit real pharma to a lab and cut corners for profit. No way a drug dealer would cheat!!! Lmao
I’ve posted two reviews for 87 in almost three yrs. What would he ever do without me. Lmfao. Didn’t call anyone a fraud. I was actually implying he’s about as intelligent as you my friend. That’s a larger insult. I expressed my opinion how this post should have been delayed till jano, or if 87 just said fuk it, it is what it is. This will be comical if 87s sust is on point. How dumb many will look. As for saying it’s my response and it’s accurate. I see that as saying a C7 manual car is not user friendly, but you neglected to mention you’ve never driven a manual car before. IF and I mean IF the sust is on point, it’s not the sources fault your personal response to its shit.
RustyhookerEasy enough. Bloods are posted. Janos coming soon.
it’s not the sources fault your personal response to its shit.
You obviously dont know chemistry. Not responding and having the 'claimed doses' are not the same. If he was not responsive to testosterone then ALL testosterone would give the same totals. However if one type brand was underdosed its reflected in the blood test. Which it is in both cases.
Where does he call him a fraud?
That's not even close to being an accurate statement
Send something to janoshik.com with no labels and then let us know if it is a scam or not
And these assumptions go both ways. You're not there sticking a needle in his ass all you know is he posted testing. And you assume the Sustanon isn't good but you don't know one way or another. When the testing comes back we'll know for sure. But until then keep pretending to be an expert and talk down to people like always.
RustyhookerOf course youre the only source to never have a bad blood test or chem levels as posted. My bad....i thought only the green guy was 100% accurrate with those mass specs.
I read your PM just now
He knows not to talk down to me. I've gotten so many messages asking me what's wrong with him for making those false accusations against a good member like myself. Everyone knows my integrity man....he messed up this time. Hope he was drunk..He's beyond rediculous
RustyhookerAlready addressed you on my page. Lol
I'm addressing you now you liar lol. You're busted and now you realize that you are caught telling a lie. Again I'll be waiting. You better have that evidence
87 you hit the nail on the head..exactly. This overzealous dude has the nerve to say that I owed 14 reviews....lol 14 and I get freebies. You all know this is a big lie. Every src reading this can vouch for me. I spent alot of money. No freebies here, wrong guy. I've asked him several times to provide evidence and he can't but yet he makes accusations lol. He's even made false accusations about srcs. Man I dunno what else to say. He needs to be held accountable.
Amen
Never said I got three bunk brands of Sustanon bud. So your reading comprehension could use a little improvement as well. I recalled my last three lab results with Sustanon being less and less each time. Not once did I say “this is trash gear f*ck this source give me free stuff” or anything if the sort.
The last five reviews (again not all negative if you can, in fact, read) are an “accurate” account of my experience. Emphasis on the My part. Not yours. Not his. Mine. You can take that for what it is. But at the end of the day you should learn how to distinguish “accurate” from “credible” which I think is probably the word you were looking for.
Bunk was a strong word and maybe over used in this situation. Your last five reviews you rated effectiveness kinda low correct? I have a question for you. Let’s pretend the testing goes well for 87. His stuff is on point. Do you apologize? Remove this post? What about the others you left reviews for? Maybe I should have said I have a few questions. I personally knowing I tested low on others sust probably would have waited till jano backs up my blood before posting if the source was willing to test. Just my opinion, doesn’t make me right or wrong.
Interesting and slightly suspect that you said the exact same thing 87 said in PM about waiting until Jano comes back to leave a review. But I’ll disregard it. And no the Jano results would NOT change my review in the slightest because my labs are still my labs and my experience is still my experience. I do not apologize. I remove nothing.
In regards to my last five reviews. If you read them thoroughly you would see only two were indeed negative. Two. Period. The others were mixed. Some of the compounds used resulted well. Some did not or I had issues with. One was hard to tell and I took full responsibility for that. If anything that’s just straight honesty. Not a “negative” review. In my eyes anyway. But maybe if I’m not kissing ass like most people do on here it’s viewed negatively. I don’t really give a f*ck though.
I was asked to share my experience for the promo participation and review and that’s what I did. And I got labs. Most people do neither.
If you read through the post up top you’d see I said from the very beginning I think it’s my personal response and not the sources gear. So how would Jano testing coming back on point (I hope it actually does) make anything I’ve said obsolete? Why would I owe anyone an apology or remove this? This is education for the community. I guess IF you’re to take my word that I’m doing what I say I’m doing of course. I have been here a long time. There a few handful of members that would vouch for my education and the fact that I’m a decent human being (from what they think they know or have experienced here) and wouldn’t mislead anyone. Never been banned. Etc etc etc.
If you ordered Sustanon 300mg and that's what we sent then the product isn't less effective. But it's your review to write how you see it.
It’s less effective for me
Again. My experience. So if there were to be an edit. It could and would certainly be that Jano report verifying your gear was indeed on point and no other speculations to be had.
You think it’s ok to give less stars because something is less effective for you than say I when the source, if they can prove everything was correct on their behalf is a good and fair review? You know you tested low on sust, used again and give a lackluster rank for it? Lmfao. I got IBS, I’ll go eat really spicy Indian food knowing I’ll shit my pants, and I’ll be sure to leave a bad Google review for that restaurant. This is exactly what you have done to 87
Well that is an actually a decent analogy I can make sense of. Albeit I wasn’t more convinced about testing low on Sust until now. But nonetheless, point taken. Again it wasn’t a “bad” review. Just an honest one that you didn’t like. It was my experience and my labs. It will be edited with Jano results.
I can change the stars just for you sunshine.
Now we agree. I apologize I didn’t make my point more clearly. Now I gotta hope 87 is on point, so I don’t owe you an apology. Lol.
You're good man. I agree, it's about the results coming back. Get them and go from there, which is the direction this is going.... That simple +1
I appreciate this
Lol I gotta few sustanon vials waiting on the results too!
Like I said somewhere in this shitstorm of a thread, I hope it is on point!
That’s a bold claim. I’ll let you go back through my reviews and try again. 3/5 of my last reviews have been negative, yes. No one has paid for my labs or Jano testing in the past.
Qiestion here about sust in general. Isn't it around 40% or so of undeconate? Mayne this is a myth but doesn't it take around 3 or 4 half life's to get peak blood levels? So wouldn't it take around 4 months to see that 40%? I am probably totally wrong here but I've never used sust before.
No it has the Decanoate ester not Undec ester. Same ester as deca. Yes Undecanoate ester would take longer to peak but if I remember right sus is usually 30mg test p, 60 test phenylprop, 60mg test isocaproate and 100mg test Decanoate. This is 250mg version. 300mg version would have slightly higher numbers. Prop, phenylprop and isocaproate would all peak faster than test e and Decanoate would be a more slower sustained releaser of testosterone. But no sust would peak way before 4 months
Ah ok understood. Thank you sir.
We asked that he send it off for testing and we will pay for his expenses in doing so.
Am I missing something ? Are you stating that you are taking .7ml of sust once a week ? So getting .6 blood stream ?
So you are injecting 180mg of short and long esters weekly correct ?
That could be the singular reason you don’t like sust and get low levels from the compound itself.
I am currently on 600mg of their sust. Week 4. Twice weekly injections. And the results have been much better than expected.
I’m wondering if you have negative karma because you don’t read well. Lol. Clearly stated above I’m injecting MWF. Three times a week.
Then yes I was missing something thanks.
Not concerned with Karma. Thanks tho.
Keep us updated on the journey Bud.
Getting alot of likes for your response. Lol way to go brother, way to go!
I want to keep liking it but I can’t :(
Thing is I know this surprised da hell out of you haha
Lmao..thanks to you he's gotten positive karma. All because of your first comment. I keep looking at how damn smooth that was...flawless and professional lol. We all can learn from that
cim131313Add me back boss idk what happened I ment to message you and pressed unfriend lol my mistake .
Honestly I didn't notice that you were gone. Ok I'll add ya. You good?
cim131313Yes boss better than ever back on track with my cycle lol .
Good deal. Glad to hear that. Saw pic too. You looking good
cim131313Thanks I dropped another 2% I’ll post a pic soon that was months ago I jsit started my cycle , injectable dbol, dhb and test e . I Hope you’re doing good too.