+ 13 Im really imbarressed about this
I need some opinions on this. Im really imbarressed and it took alot for me to even post this picture because I just don't understand how it happened. I got blood work done and my estro wasn't even high so im not sure what happened but recently it looks more and more like im developing gyno. I at first thought it was because of my ruptured bicep that my left chest was just larger than my right but now im starting to think otherwise. I have checked for lumps or anything that feels different from the other side and I don't feel anything. As I understand it your estro has to be high to devolope gyno right? Im taking aromasin at 12.5 ed split. I did switch my decca to a different lab but I would believe that gyno would come from the test. Im nice and fat also so the picture looks really bad but im running a true dirty heavy bulk and will cut back down after cycle with an eca stack.
Could it just be a fat deposit in my chest or do you guys believe that its definitely gyno.
I've never had a gyno scare I've had high estro and took it back down but never looked like this.
Im ready to hear your opinions hit me with the truth please im already depressed about this so you won't hurt my feelings.
Also this is without any pumps it was first thing this morning.
Thanks for the advise and help fellas.
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I was 227 in that pic now im 202lbs lean abs are starting to pop. Im really happy now it did turn out not to be gyno
It's just a swollen mammory gland I'm sure. When you think somethings there you will poke and prod it just don't mess with it ... if it's gyno you will know it because at least in my experience it can be painful itchy etc 30 says of 10 mg nolvadex it's gone.
Also your bf is getting high that's all a lil puffiness will go away after cycle even if you are trt when you drop your dose back down run nolvadex like I mentioned above.
Injuries will set ya back a lil looks like the misses is feeding you good haha bulk on bulk on
Dont be embarrased mate were all humans at the end of the day theres no shame were all the same i believe there will be some very nice people on here to help you out all the best of luck with your training
Dont be embarrased mate were all humans at the end of the day theres no shame were all the same i believe there will be some very nice people on here to help you out all the best of luck with your training
I very much appreciate that I will be posting my cutting routine soon and then in 6wks I will post a updated pic for everyone to see.
My cutting routine is pretty good but im sure everyone can help me tweak a couple of things.
I will post it on Sunday
Yeah defo mate am sure there is some nice guys on here to help you out looking forward to seeing your progression mate. Good luck buddy
No eed be embarased brother , there still good ppl left on eroids who like to help
You not have gyno , all is good
Go on 20 mg nolva ed , 50mg proviron ed , 250-500 mg test ew , no anti es and diet very hard
You need diet one time very hard to single digits then all your problem is solved :-)
Respect
Dope
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This is exactly the plan drop decca run trt dose test then pct out and cut cut cut.
In 6wks I will post a progress pic im also going to post a diet forum. To get some tweaking done to my cutting routine.
Tony and others im sure are going to help and im always open for anything good or bad thanks dope
X2 dopes advice the nolva and provi will nibble on that shit. You gotta diet down bro that's just fat deposits
X3.....guys said all
X4 well said
I hope so if its just fat no problem i planned on cutting down after the heavy bulk it looks like im going to cut the bulk a few weeks earlier and start the cutting now.
Im going to post progress in 6wks
Good luck mate.
Very much appreciated its time to cut up will update in 6wks with new pic
Bro I think you have not gyno my option for you take pharma quality proviron in the cycle 50mg/day.I can use always the best thing and take in your hands Nolvadex.
Never use UG proviron or UG nolvadex and UG clomid.
Pharma quality all the time!
Im actually using ugl brand Proviron thats amazing. I am using pharma grade clomiphene and Nolvadex though always.
You need to develop a good diet and training routine. There used to be a great diet section here. If its not too active post up a forum post and ill chime in along with a few others and get you hooked up brother.
I really appreciate that tony I haven't seen you around in awhile glad you are back.
I will post a type of diet log i guess I will post up my pic and then 6wks updated pic but I will write it up tomorrow so I can post my normal cutting routine and then we can all work on tweaking it.
Much appreciated brother
This is a perfect time for you to do a log on intermittent fasting. Good luck. And keep us posted
Definitely i have been reading its nothing crazy but it makes sense.
Im going to post another pic in 6wks to show progress and I will save this one to post also to compare
I just started reading about it. I guess im outta the loop. I was always told to eat in macros throughout the day when on steroid cycle. I hope to learn alot from your journey.
This is how I also have always bulked multiple meals usually 6 for me heavy meals. Spread out but the intermittent fasting seems like more of a cutting type of diet. Getting everything in you during your 8hrs your most active its an interesting diet and im going to really consider it but it will take alot for me to eat my last meal around 2-3pm especially after a hard workout with heavy cardio but thats where it will work.
I may have missed this info; but what's your prolactin at?
I know it wasn't an issue but I don't have a copy of my blood work its in my file at my docs office. I had been taking .25 caber 2x a wk. Once it came back low I backed off and I have taken it 3x since you think that it could be prolactin issues?
Should I start my caber again thats something I didn't even consider because it was low on the test and since I still used some caber I didn't think anything about it.
I did change the decca and that definitely could have pushed it right up I've got about 90 tabs of caber so do you think I should start my 2x a wk atleast for another couple of weeks im dropping the decca?
Good call!! It didn't even cross my mind.
I wish I could bump you with a plus 4 you are the only one that asked
It's hard to say without seeing a new blood panel. Personally, my prl can rise quickly if I'm using a quality nandrolone. If I don't have caber dialed in I can get puffy areolas or as my girlfriend would say, "my areolas look feminine."
It could be an issue caused from other factors as well, or as some have said it could be nothing at all. It could be from water retention or an increase in fat. I would say you'd be best off getting that combo panel done from privatemdlabs that is basically the menopause panel and prl. You don't want to take a medication like caber unless necessary and you want to take the right dose. It's hard to get a bearing of what that might be without the lab work.
Edit; dropping the deca and lowering test as you mentioned elow is a great plan of action. I wouldn't advise using the caber unless your bloods come back and your prl is excessively high. Letting you body reach a state closer to homeostasis without pulling your levels on different direction through the influence of drugs will be better for a longer term balance.
I agree i almost took a caber last night when I read your post but I pulled back because I don't think its that but you could have hit it on the head just got bloods but I did switch decca so those bloods are false
Thanks brother
Well first of all this is what this site it all about to help each other and etc.....
I'm not seeing gyno either you're just going to have to buckle down and work your ass off and cut out any junk food or what ever food that isn't being used up and is spilling over on your frame.....
There is nothing to be embarrassed about at all if someone says it is there full of shit anyway we all have fell off the horse just need to dust yourself off and get back on.....
Thanks zeb I was really worried for a couple of days now I feel better I just need to tighten back up i took this bulk beyond where I should've.
Thanks brother
backonroidsAll looks fine on gyno front ,keep pushing mate +
I very much appreciate it brother im going to switch it back to my cutting routine and pull out of the cycle. Thanks for your opinion I very much appreciate it
backonroidsSometimes it's good to get a bit of extra fat on a bulk , I hate when people are afraid of gaining fat when bulking , everyone's body's react differently. This is all part of the process off you becoming a beast , I look forward to following your journey mate
RustyhookerNot seeing gyno bro. Keep cutting and reshaping. Coming off injury is not easy at all
I don't know if I can use the injury as a reason its been almost 1.5yrs. It still isn't what it used to be my right arm is about only 80% if I put my arms straight out you can see that my right bicep is even shorter than the left but I think I just went a little to far with this bulk my diet was crazy heavy I've been eating so much my wife is complaining about the shopping bill nothing else thats rare lol
Im going to pull off this cycle slowly drop my test down and drop the decca.
Then switch my whole diet and routine back to cutting.
I appreciate you commenting I value your opinion as you know. Thanks brother
How many calories were you consuming?
RustyhookerYou'll figure it out. Foods arent as easy as it seems it should be. Especially with everyone responding different. Cant cookie cutter that part at all.
Props for putting up the pic, i was able to drop 33lbs by cutting the carbs not completely but really dropping them and did my best to get them in before 2ish. But I train very early and my big meals were all then as well. Just hit that cardio man. Keep up the weight training but make yourself sweat. Nothing but water to drink. Its a bitch but can be done. I wouldnt mind dropping a bit more bf myself and it seems like everyone agrees on intermittent fasting, I'll have to read up on that as well. Keep us posted.
I've been eating like an animal that stopped today back to fasted cardio every morning.
I hate not bulking but you can see it went a little to far this cycle lol
I appreciate your help brother carbs down protien down fats down cals deficient again. Im going to drop to trt dose of test only drop off the decca and once the decca clears drop the test and pct.
All I drink is water with mio electrolytes and I've recently taken up coconut water to help with hydration. Ive been reading about this intermittent fasting im going to see about maybe implementing that also.
I appreciate your help brother thanks
There will definitely be a updated pic in about 4-6wks
A little fat is nothing, you have the motivation and tools you'll be where you want in no time at all. Put your head down and plow forward brother!
I wanted to say thanks for everyone helping in here i really thought I was just going to get that I was a fat ass I really appreciate all the help.
I don't see any gyno. +1
Thanks brother thats really comforting im really worried I would never be able to afford the surgery
im also in the same boat not cycling no more until get bodyfat alot lower yours doesnt look like gyno though as pale said you would know its painful your more likely looking at fatty deposits.
Thanks brother i appreciate your opinion I hope that it isn't time for me to cut way back down
AnonDo fell lump on nipple ?
No nothing different from the other side at all. I really don't know exactly what im looking for but no lumps or tissues that shouldn't be there.
AnonSounds like fatty nips
I hope so even know that's not good its better than gyno thanks brother
Brother Pale nailed it brother Gettingbig, body fat percentage is to high! Personally, I don't see gyno, just fat deposits! I just read an article in M&F where Terry Crews utilizes intermittent fasting! He has an eight hour window to consume his meals and fasts the other sixteen hours. My approach is somewhat similar to this and this is how I keep body fat to a minimum in my older years!
No reason to be embarrassed, we're all here to help one another! hit me up if ever you need anything!
+2 for posting a picture!
Hashtag1981I agree ...also dr Eric Berg too
Eric berg im going to check that name also I recognize it but can't put a face to it