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  • Gettingbig   •   Tue, Jan 1st, '19 13:47   •   136 replies, 1877 views

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All right so I can't just say that these are counterfeit. I know how to authenticate another pharma grade brand but I don't know much about this brand. So I don't want to jump to judgment without anyone giving me some knowledge and advice.
Everything ive seen has pointed towards these being counterfeit.
I have batch numbers
6012
This amp has the batch number and the exp date printed on the amp just like the company name
6009
This amp has the batch number printed in black but the exp date inked on the side of the amp rubbing off easily
6008
I recieved 5 of these batch number printed in black like the company name and the exp date inked on all 5 rubbing off
5008
Batch number inked on and exp date inked on

Then I received 1 amp that actually has no batch number or exp date printed on it anywhere.
It just has the company logo printed on it.

All black dots are different sizes and there are no extra glass on top of the amps so it seems that they could be of lower quality which doesn't mean counterfeit but points in that direction.

All have the teacup handle but I imagine that counterfeiters have caught up and added the handle because that was the way to tell awhile back. The ink is also printed in different darkness some are printed bold and dark some are printed smaller and lighter.

The exp dates are all the same even on batch number 5008-6012. I thought that this was very strange.

All pictures of real and even fakes ive seen have the amp with the label like this
Testosterone enanthate
250mg/ml Only deep muscle injection
Then the cup with the handle aburaihan CO. Iran
Batch number printed on amp
Mfg number inked
Exp number inked

If you ordered 10 amps and received 5 different versions. Plus that aburaihan is supposed to be in white plastic trays and they are in clear plastic trays.
The trays and even the box and having multiple different batch numbers together I can understand because the way that they get it here makes sense that the original packaging wouldn't be included and the amps would be mixed up.
I wouldn't have questioned it except for receiving one amp without a batch, lot,mfg, or exp on it that looks like the counterfeiter just missed an amp and didn't run it through the machine.
There was no pamphlet which is understandable once again because it was probably ditched in the shipping process to lighten the load just like with the white plastic trays.

My question is though why are all the amps completely different than any fake or real amp from aburaihan testosterone enanthate that you can see in Google images. I do know that they change the way that they produce the amps to fight against counterfeiting but this seems not what is happening here.

Please anyone who has any experience with these amps please give me your opinion.
When in doubt throw them out and I will because I can't verify that there real unless someone else can.
I posted the src not to give them a bad name but im sorry I tried to talk with them first and they said the normal response they are straight from the pharmacy. Then told me to send them to be tested.
Im sure that they can come from a pharmacy but counterfeits have known to make there way into legitimate pharmacies in certain parts of the world. Also im sure that there is testosterone enanthate in the amps but I ordered aburaihan testosterone because I wanted to try testosterone made by them if I just wanted testosterone I would have ordered from my regular pharma grade provider that I have authenticated the amps from.

Please give me your opinion real or counterfeit?
How would you feel getting 5 different versions of amps in a 10 pac of amps?

Thanks brothers I appreciate everyone's help with this. Including the src if they would like to explain how one amp literally has zero information while others have the information printed incorrectly as to what I have seen in every Google image available. I couldn't find amps that looked like any that I have received.

I honestly hope that im completely wrong and I will write an apology to the src for this situation.

Thanks again
Bm

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  • sunamcaxa's picture
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  • sunamcaxa
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I bought like year ago 50 same ampls from another reputable source and no one had exp dates on it, ofc I didn’t pin that shit

  • Gettingbig's picture
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I believe that I am going to use these at first I thought no way but I will inj the 9 that I believe are legitimate now but I don't know about the one with nothing but the logo

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6008 and 6009 looking legit , only the 6012 looks "new" to me.

All Aburaihan amps I know have printed EXP dates but 6012 is a very new batch so maybe they have just a new style/label.

Counterfeited amps have mostly a bad printed logo or the logo is completely black - they have also sometimes a white or even no breaking point and a few a white ring around the amp head. Laser printed exp. dates are also a sign for fakes (not wipeable).

  • jp82088's picture
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NOT TRUE brother. New batch have laser printed Exp dates......

I also have Iran Hormone, yes, the company that produces the best prescription Anadrol in the planet Testosterone Enathate and they are also Laser printed on each amp.

I want everyone to be aware that if you are using Iran oils be sure not to use half of the amp and have the other rest sitting. The Iran goverment has different medical standards and don't use alcohol solvents in their products just sterile testosterone so your risk for bacterial infection are much higher, just keep this in mind and you will be okay. What you will notice is that the testosterone can easily flow through a slin pin with absolutely minimal to no PIP.

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IMO,best prescription anadrol is Turkish . You say Iran, you are entitled to that.

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I have used both and in my opinion both are excellent. I still like the Iran Anadrol as it will always have a special place in my heart lol.

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I have nothing against Iran at all, but for some weird reason I react much better with Turkish. Those red blistered Iran packs gave me massive headaches lol

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Lol

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Did you see the amp with nothing no batch no exp no bfg no nothing except the aburaihan logo. The other amps look alright everything im seeing looks different but I truly believe ugfreak that there real just that one damn amp I can't explain lol
Also there are 5008 batch # it just looks like 6008 but there are 5008,6008,6009,6012,then one with absolutely nothing
Thanks brother

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I'm all fucking confused. Murph keeps saying ukgear yet tags ugfreak and they reponded to this and what has ultimately turned this post into a shitshow.

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Its my autocorrect I didn't even realize it was happening until I just read your post.
There is another src with that name ukgear there now gone busted and my autocorrect keeps correcting instead of leaving ugfreak.
Sorry

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I still can't understand everyone's obsession over pharma gear. Just buy from a reputable source and it's as good as pharma. I have no time to vet out pharma grade bs. I also have no time to be a mod here or there so good for you with all your extra time. And I'm very skeptical of you. And my opinion means nothing so take it for what you want.

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I like pharma grade products because there honestly is a difference and if the cost isn't that much of a difference I would rather use pharma grade.
I always use pharma grade AI but I have used 2 international labs aromasin that was fine.
I also use there gear. Domestic gear can be good from a great src for a long time but then a bad batch can happen it happens even to pharma grade products. I just have never gotten the guaranteed quality from a ugl that I get from a hg product

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Pm me

  • Gettingbig's picture
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Why we used to talk all the time.
What did I do to you that got you upset with me?
I was literally just telling another member that I missed being able to get advice from fusebox and I named multiple other members

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Why not send me a friend request. It's not that tough my friend

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Sent brother

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Why did it autocorrect to ukgear? You obviously have typed that a few times for it to autocorrect. Yeah. We talked. You got banned for being a dumbass about something blah blah blah. I'm done here. Said my .02. Take it for what it is. I'm not arguing. Just pointing out what I see. Hehe. ( In my best flokie voice from Vikings if anyone watches that. ). Good night Murph hope the test does you well.

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Pounds23 STFU already with your recommendations

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I uploaded 2 more images from William llewellyn book Anabolics

Edit: I wanted to add that I know that pharma companies do change the way their products look to try and stay in front of the counterfeits.
The worry was that you can see every amp has a batch number printed on the amp.
Then a mfg# inked
Then a exp date inked
It through me off so I wanted to post it up and ask. Ukgear told me to do so because he isn't worried and I actually believe because of the way he acted through this situation that the amps are real and I will leave a honest review in about 8wks.

So you can see where my concerns came from since everyone is thinking that im slandering ugfreak
Which im not and will say again to ugfreak sorry for the problems this may have caused you in anyway your services were top notch and im happy that I can order domestic other brands and will continue to do so.

Thanks to ugfreak for being the upmost professional person in a situation like this.
I have alot of respect for that.
Thanks again
Bm

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Like I said brother the old batches where inked on then transitioned to being scribed on the amps like the ones shown on this post.....

I will do more research and maybe do a post for everyone on authentics next to counterfeits if mods on here give me the green light.

NOTE: I also have the same book and pics on medications are very outdated......

Hope all is well.

  • Gettingbig's picture
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That's why it worried me but I know that they are constantly changing the way that they make things.
Thanks brother

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We'd like to offer a detailed response here, to sum up everything and leave out any doubts etc. To make it very clear to everyone, at UGF we have CHOSEN not to sell fake gear. There is a possibility to get fakes and there is a possibility to sell it to people, who are interested in buying fakes (most likely to resell it as the real deal, on the street markets). However, we still don't want to sell fakes. We would rather sell products as unknown UGL gear, than pretending the products we sell are legit while they are not. We don't want to lie to our customers, and neither do we want to sell fakes to resellers, knowing they'll pretend them to be real pharma grade products, when selling it to others that don't know the truth.

That's one thing. Another thing is, as the OP suggests, what if UGF doesn't even know these are fakes? Also suggested somebody on the team could be adding the fake amps.

None of these are the case here either. We don't buy fakes at all. We are 100% certain that the products we offer, are 100% real. 100% pharma grade, 100% from pharmacies. No doubts about what we're buying.

Also our workers are not random guys we'll trust with all of this.

Without giving too much away, specially for our own safety, allow us to explain how you can end up with amps that weren't from the same box in the beginning.

1) We bought all of them 100% legit gear.

2) We didn't buy them as they came in the boxes, and then forwarded them to you or others. You want to buy the gear domestic. We buy them from a certain location, have to move around from certain locations and in the end make sure, that it can arrive to the country in where we offer you a domestic service. During this process, you end up with a mix of the lots of amps and in a box that may not match any of the amps, as we can' t sort them in that order before sending them off. We choose to put together what you need, into a box, and have it sent your way. Even though products aren't from the same batch or box, you can be sure it is still the same real products that we bought from the start. Also if anything is ever off with the pharmacy gear, it's on their end. So to get them into the domestic territory, we have to pack it all and carefully get it into your country. We don't just ship it as we get them. Products are separated from how they were originally were and when we ship it to you customers, we gather them together.

Hope that gives you some relief buddy. And appreciate the kind way you've been addressing us too and glad you're ready to do more business. We definitely don't mind all of this - it was up for discussion and we hope it has come to and end, with comfort, so we can tell you to enjoy your gear!

  • Gettingbig's picture
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Freak this is exactly what I explained in an earlier post. I believe that what you sent is from pharmacies. I don't believe that you tried to rob me for pennies that would be ridiculous for a top src to do that.
I wanted to come here and ask what others thought about this situation.
Im only really questioning 1 amp that I believe is a counterfeit because it has nothing on it no batch, exp,mfg just nothing but the logo.
The rest have all different styles 5 in total and I understand that they all get mixed together.
I never once asked for a reship I never once said that you were scamming. I just don't know and wanted to ask the community.
As I already said I will order from you again because you have gear domestic that I want.
Im a happy shopper. I just won't buy aburaihan again because its a mess trying to know if there legitimate.
Your service is fantastic and im really happy with everything. I will run the aburaihan and see how it does.
Thanks freak I appreciate your services and products

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This may sound a silly question but what lab is this ??

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Lol... i assume you didn't read the whole post? It's ABURAIHAN from Iran, mate :)

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When you ordered from Freak did you tell him you were with UG ? Did you offer to put him on the board?

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No I paid for this package but yes I have offered him advertising at ugm.
I paid btc in full for this order and I can submit the transfer and ugfreak will also tell you that I paid

Just to clarify I offered him an advertising opportunity.
Then I decided to place a test order.
He had already said that he didn't want to advertise
This was all done through email and on ugfreak site also nothing here. This has nothing to do with that.

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I'm not saying you didnt pay and honestly I hate to see this roll again. Theyve slammed top sources on that board. I'm still useing one and trust me it's not bunk. I'm surprised you even posted this.
When your ordering off eroids and offer to put the source on ug then post this its shady af.
You should have pmed him.
If that's not a conflict of interest I dont know what is.
You could be right but it's like writing a review during a promo. It dont look good.

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Im lost on all this. Just trying to learn counterfeit from official amps.

But if it was bought here and posted here then what does it matter if folks are on multiple boards? Most of the members here are on various boards. At least to see differing views or a bigger picture.