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Need help to build a BIG BAD BULKING diet to go along with a winter cycle

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Yo yo yo

Alrighty then so whats first ...stats?

Ok nvm my profile my new and improved stats are 27 years of age, 225lbs, 10-12% body fat
Goal: get as big as possible gain least amount fat possible
Cycle: tren e, test e, prop front loaded, and tren ace tapper...taper? i dunno spell check isnt correcting either of those...got some eq and primo on hand but not sure if gonna add either anyways...

PS: trying to stick to mainly real food i like rice and sweet potatoes and all kinds of meat and veggies hate yogurts and cottage cheeses so plz dont tell me to put them in there or at least give me an alternate choice... i will have shakes on hand i get casein and whey from ON for free not sure if those are good seeing as neither are fda cert but whatev i got em up to u guys to tell me if i should use em...
PPS: i usually eat everything i can find and have done realatively health and frequent meals when cycling but have always felt my diet has never really been dialed in perfectly precycle and im always wasting time experimenting and figuring out what to eat on cycle using the mirror as a guide...

So all that said im kinda looking for a handout here need a custom tailored 6 meal per day plus a pre-workout and night time snack i do not work so im super flexible on time i hear some people waking up at like 3 am to have a shake i can do that no biggie but u guys tell me... and lets pretend moneys not really an issue here its horrible but my girl makes ridiculous money and she said i can spend it and just do roids and play video games all day legit she said that lol...

So hit me should i be carb cycling? shoud i be 40/40/20? or 55/30/15? should i eat all my carbs before 4pm? should i drink cow blood? punch a baby for 3 sets of 10 as a warm up? should i get 4000 calories ? 5000? whats the deal i know alot of you guys know your shit i trust ya:)

calen517's picture

yea it is a decent amount of food. if you are doing twice a days i would add an extra shake. but you really dont need to change the meals up too much, try and get in some right after your workouts regardless. idk if you know but huge intake of carbs causes a nice spike in insulin resulting in a much more effecient protein uptake. i find it pretty effective. but good luck bro, get big.

calen517's picture

and its cool bro i lived with my parents for a while too, don't gotta lie about it haha.

calen517's picture

bro... idk how many cycles you've run in the past but with what you're sayin and the questions you're askin i get the impression that its not many. you're running a big dirty nasty winter bulk you dont have to fuck with carb cycling or any of that shit. and for you to say you dont like some foods? When you're bulking food is a tool, to make you big and fuckin scary, not something you're going to enjoy. I hate food bro, because im constantly stuffing myself and shitting and farting and on the verge of puking, but i do because i have a goal and im not stopping until that goal is met. okay so enough of that

6am meal 1: 8 eggs scrambled with 6oz of lean ground beef smothered in cottage cheese. or i imagine you could make a pretty dank savory sauce with greek yogurt. two cups of oatmeal, i go by precooked cups. shitton of oatmeal anyway.

9am meal 2: 8-12oz of cottage cheese or greek yogurt with a 8-10oz of chicken breast. and like 10-12oz of potatoes or equivalent amount of white rice some sort of carb like that. maybe throw a dill sauce made with greek yogurt over the spuds.

12pm meal 3: 12 oz of red meat such as flank steak or ground beef with two cups of white rice i like two brown ground beef and throw it on the rice with some salsa and some cottage cheese. but u don't like cottage cheese so again greek yogurt or something.

3pm meal 4: i i usually work out at around five so this is my pre workout meal, i know some people cant handle a lot of food right before the gym so maybe get a monster shake in instead. 12oz of chicken breast and another two cups of white rice with salsa and shit mixed in and maybe 50grams of whey protein.

6pm meal 5: i get about 200grams of carbs in anyway i can and quickly. i like hash browns mounded with cheddar and some of the oatmeal to go bars warmed up. pretty tasty, my favorite meal of the day usually.

7pm meal 6: 12oz of red meat and another 2 cups of white rice or spuds. prepared how you like, with another 30grams of whey. i usually make my shake with a half quart of strawberry ice cream and some bananas.

9pm meal 7: 10oz of chicken breast and two cups of brown rice or oatmeal, it seems to digest slower through the night, keeps me from wanting to tear my girls head off in the morning when i wake up or having to get up and cook something in the night. and 50grams of casein protein. I try and fit in some bullshit after that for the next hour or so before i go to bed.

I usually snack pretty consistently throughout the day as well, mixed nuts, candy bars, and lots of milk and soda. idk i dont really keep track of my macros i just eat a lot. hopefully this helps bro, and seriously stop whining about not liking stuff, you're gonna end up hating it all before you're done.
EDIT: if you run out of room in your gut for veggies take animal paks, not even close in nutrients but its somethin.

AllDayBayBee's picture

PERFECT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED! lol right now all my meals have been closer to the 8 oz cooked weight of chicken breast i think working in the red meat will def help. i def starting to agree wit the food as a tool thing lol i have come to realize anything no matter how yummy it was the first night if im cookin 20lbs of chicken a week it not gonna taste as good on meal 7 friday night lol. im def about to steal this basically verbatim and use it every day one issue i wanted to ask about is i do actually live by myself and i dont work lol my girl supports me for some weird reason in all this lol but since i dont work i have split my workouts into two a day so ill work out shortly after meal 3 eat nap and then do what ever other muscle group i have for the day around meal 5 or 6 im wondering if i should pe adding the preworkout shake before each of these workouts or just one or the other and same with the post workout meals should i have two post workout big meals as well? i have no problem working out after i eat btw i find that unless i had just taken some prami i can eat all day without feeling nauseated...

Skittles_beast's picture

thats a lot of damn food bro, I'm starting a bulk cycle soon and I am going to steal this for my own...

Cheatnnature's picture

Do you know your testing body metabolism by chance? I heard that you want to get all that factored in when planning a diet so you know how much you need to eat to gain. I hear a 40/40/20 is a good way to go.

AllDayBayBee's picture

well for an individual testing by trial or error is the only real way to do it i have done this but still do not have a grasp on how many i need when im not bulking up vs when im cutting let alone vs when im on cycle bulking or cutting... that is why i hope someone out there knows a better more accurate way to figure it out i have been using the Harris-Benedict formula for finding the BMR of an individual but this was based on total body mass which i dont feel it ok to use for us big boys when we may want alot of bulk on us at any given time...so i switched to the Katch-McCardle formula which is based off and individuals LEAN body mass which i feel is a little bit better but i still not sure and for me i feel that if i just knew how many calories i needed then i could figure the rest out from the ole 40/40/20 but i cant :( so i dont know where to start and i dont wanna spend half my cycle eating to little or too much trying to figure out where my calories need to come from...