+ 2 Post Cycle Off Gear Time
So that time is coming… PCT. In 5 weeks it will be time for my last pin of test. Here are the current cycle stats:
Week 1-14: 600 mg weekly test sus
Week 1-14:400 mg weekly Npp
Week 1-4 & week 8-12: D-Bol 30 mg daily
Week 15&16: Test E 400 mg weekly
Week 15&16: HCG 3000 IU weekly
Week 17&18: nothing (clear system)
Week 19&20 Nova 50 mg daily. Clomid 100 mg daily
Week 21&22 Nova 25 mg daily. Clomid 50 mg daily
In total I will have completed a 20-week cycle, including my post-cycle therapy (PCT). Following this, I will begin a 20-week period of training without the use of gear. During this time, I plan to maintain a clean diet, take my vitamins, and continue lifting while adhering to a bodybuilding lifestyle. I am seeking advice on how to retain as much muscle mass as possible during this “natural” phase to maximize muscle retention for my next cycle.
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How old are you ( around 36 ). What have your natural test levels been tested at previous….
Are you looking to have kids,
35, don’t care to have kids. I have done PCT 3 times successfully recovered. I have not done bloods and I know that’s stupid. However usually after 3-4 weeks post PCT drugs I feel totally back to normal. Dicks back body feels stable and strength starts to recover. I guess I am more concerned this time around because it’s my first time with a 19-nor.
Best thing you can do buddy is keep doing everything that you are doing ON the cycle in my eyes - keep everything strict and monitored, keep aiming to get stronger and consume as much carbs and protein as you possibly can. I think the way you are going to have to look at things is every training session at least for the first few months you are going to be getting weaker and able to do less reps and in the end less weight. If you can get your head around that part and keep in mind the reason you are doing this is to be healthy and look after your body then you are 90% of the way there. 1 step back in return for 2 steps forward in the future buddy
Thanks Press. Idk what it is about PCT.I have been through it 3 times now, always came out okay. I think the 19-nor got me thinking it’s going to be harder. Your absolutely right 1 step backward two forward that’s how I felt from last cycle to this one!!
Press !!!!! Thats deep buddy
2 weeks pct?? Wrong
It’s 4 weeks sorry that was a typo
I think that after 20 weeks you will lose everything you gained during the cycle. Maybe you will be the same weight, which can deceive you, but the muscles you gained during the cycle will no longer be there. Naturally, it is impossible to keep something you got on steroids for such a long period of time. I know you are looking at how long you have been ON to be OFF which is the healthiest approach to using steroids but for that approach you should have done cycles of 8-12 weeks. And what you can do to try to keep muscles is usually...reduce training volume, increase protein, take d aspartic acid for testosterone, creatine if you react to it...I would also increase around training and/or during training bcaa and eaa...
Well I don’t think I’m at any kind of natural limit for muscle mass so I hope I don’t lose most of it haha. Time will tell. I felt like last cycle I bridged into this cycle and I’m bigger now vs last cycle. My down time was like 4 months in between.
AK80Train the same but up your weight and lower your reps, HMB, Universal Nutrition's Animal Pak vitamins, Stan Efferding's Vertical Diet, Creatine, 8 hours of sleep every night, 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight every day and whatever else the kids at GNC tell ya. That last part was partially a joke, but that's all you can really do to stay "natty" for 5 months.
I will add one more thing... my last run was a solid size run as well. However, I am in a cutting phase for a while. I wouldn't let the weight you lift get in your head if the volume decreases. The muscle fibers you built will be there in a year. They will not be as full as you were on gear. If you want to be big, like I said already... eat, eat, & eat. If you are conscious about your got like I am, you just have to suck it up lol...
Calories & HGH are probably your best bet. I wouldn't expect to look as "clean" coming off cycle ever. Expect to put on some lbs if you want to keep the strength lol