-1 Winter cycle
I've been clean for over 8 months and my receptors and body(blood work ok) are ready for a nice light cycle! I work construction soo I hate juicing in the Summer anyway! I'm in my late 40's now and I don't juice heavy like I used too, but know what works for me. I was 19 when I did my first cycle in a competition. That being said; here it is...Simple, fairly cheap, and effective. What do you guys think?
Prior to cycle I start HGH!
1 Month prior
*HGH 3iu a day
*Get bloodwork
Week 1/2/3/4
*Test Suspension 100mg a day.
(Shot before training or in the morning)
*Dbol 50mg tablet a day
(25 mg before morning workout)
(25 mg before evening workout)
*Deca Durabolin 200mg a week
(Joint health)
*HGH 3iu a day
*HCG 250 iu shots as needed
*Donate blood week 4
*Liver protector supps
*Nolvadex on hand
*Aromasin on hand
Week 5/6/7/8
*Depot Test Cyp(Pharma grade Pfizer) 350mg
*Test Suspension 50mg
(Before training 6/7 times a week)
*Tren Hex 150mg a week
*HGH 3iu a day
*HCG 250 iu shots as needed
*Liver protector supps
*Nolvadex on hand
*Aromasin on hand
*donate blood week 8
Week 9/10/11/12
*Anavar 50 mg tablet
(25 mg before morning workout)
(25 mg before night workout)
*Depot Test Cyp(Pfizer) 350 mg
*Test Suspension 50mg
(Before training 5/6 times a week)
*Tren Hex 150mg a week
*HGH 3iu a day
*HCG 250 iu shot as needed
*Clenbuterol pyramid up every week
(40, 60, 80,100 mcg a day)
*GW 501516 10 mg a day
(Lipid health)
*Liver protector Supps
*Donate blood week 12
Week 13
*Test Suspension 50mg a day(morning)
(Mimic Test Pulse/come down)
*GW 501516 10 mg a day
*HGH 3iu a day
*Liver protector supps
Week 14
PCT
*HCG 500iu a day
(250 iu morning)
(250 iu night)
*HMG 150 iu a week
(75iu on Sat)
(75iu on Wed.)
*Clomid 50mg a day
*HGH 3 iu a day
*Liver Protector Supps
Week 15
*Clomid 50mg a day
*HGH 8iu EOD
(4iu in the morning)
(4iu in the evening)
*Liver Protector Supps
Week 16
*Clomid 25mg a day
*HGH 8iu EOD
(4iu in the morning)
(4iu in the evening)
*Liver Protector Supps
Week 17
*HGH 8iu EOD
*Start Test boosters daily
*Cialis & Viagra on hand if needed
*Get Bloodwork
8iu EOD works good for me during PCT to keep my size! I always loose hardness, but I don't loose any weight this way.
** Tren Hex you dont need alot like ACE!
Dorian Yates stated he never did more than 2 Parabolins a week!! The reason being they cost $25/30 bucks an amp back then. That's only 150mg. Guys you don't need to do high doses. Just saying! I remember in the early 90's we did just 1 amp a week when stacking, because it was soo expensive. Still works good in low amounts if you find a good source!
** Love Test Suspension! Always been a favorite; best kick start and pre-workout! I've used it my last 3 or 4 cycles! I only do one 4 month cycle a year tops these days.
** I keep Aromasin, Nolvadex, and HCG on hand, but only use it if needed!
**No TRT... I like cleaning my receptors and forcing my system to turn back on doing heavyAF lifts, eating LOTS of pussy (pheromones exposure) hours at a time raises my T levels, laying out in the sun alot, and napping daily(does wonders). Usually takes me 2-4 months to turn on Testosterone levels fully (meaning railing my girlfriend for hours without viagra or cialis). I do quickies post cycle for a while and tell my girl whats up the first 2 months!
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Lots of negative comments about using Test Suspension. Yet.. I bet half the guys never ever tied it! Nothing puts on strength & size FASTER!
BigCactusNah no hate against suspension, these guys are just saying you need a test base next to it starting week 1, even if its only 250mg test cyp just to get some stability in your cycle.
Now you can be stubborn and say you've been doing this for 30 years. But the combined experience of the people giving you advice is a lot more than that. Keep an open mind.
I hear ya bro!!! I'm open minded but many on here are not! I take it with a grain of salt. Would you guys all call Arnold Schwarzenegger an idiot because he liked Dianabol & primo only cycles? He hated Test & thought it was dirty...Or how about Robby Robinson who didn't like Test also & only does a 200 mg shot of Deca Durabolin every two weeks since 1975. His test levels are thru the roof at 75! Lee Priest is another guy who stated everytime he took Test he got weak & prefered anabolic only cycles. If my natural Test level was only 200 or 300 I def would include it. That would put me in the right total range. Including it early would throw me over 1500 range & give me shutdown. Not trying to get that. Like I said my natural Test hovers around 700 ng soo I just need a little pulses to spike me into 1200 range! I squat 500 for 10 & bench over 400 for 6 to 8 soo I dont compare my situation with newbies or people with bad genetics! Everybody works differently.. Specially people who have very high natural test levels(900) as apposed to people who have low T (200).
Do whatever you want, it seems to be working for you, but your logic is retarded and uninformed. You clearly have great genetics and can get away with mistakes, but it will catch up with your health and you very clearly don’t understand how all of this works.
Your body doesn’t shut down because you go over 1500 test. It’s not like there’s a switch where it’s like “well this is too much, shut her down!”... Even if you only injected a small amount, consistently, your body would shut down. It shuts down because it doesn’t have to make what you’re giving it, not because you pass some arbitrary number in your blood.
And even if that was true, 100mg of suspension is 100% putting you over 1500, even if only for a few hours. You’re more than welcome to pin 100 and get bloods 2 hours later to prove me wrong.
And deca is more suppressive than test so I’m calling bullshit on the Robby Robinson thing. Deca also shows up as test on bloodwork tested a certain way, so it was probably just reading that. His body isn’t making test still if he’s injecting deca all the time. Even at low doses.
The reason it probably works for you is because suspension actually gives you a quick release, and then a second wave of release later. Ed posted about it a while back.
All anyone is saying is this would be better if you included a long ester from the start. If your doing well with shitty layouts like this and great genetics, imagine how well you’d do with one that made sense.
I respect that comment! Maybe I'll throw in one Sus amp a week from week 1-4 & see how that works differently for me this time around! I have a few laying around!
Nice. Let us know if it makes a difference. I think you’ll be surprised.
For sure! Here are the links of Robbie Robinson talking about his AAS use briefly!
https://youtu.be/L7u5N2MfTNU
https://youtu.be/QSyXzKYGJaY
It's amazing how the Golden Era guys took AAS!
Nice I’ll check them out. Yea we learned a lot from those guys.
Shit looks crazy. Suspension would need to be hit at least four times a day or its just a pwo. In and out quick.
How bout a long ester from day one. I like CENSORED.
As far as railing your girlfriend for hours sans the peecker pills. Pictures or it didn't happen. You need to write eroids and the date on one of his butt cheeks.
Dear Mod I did not mean the kill it naps. I meant sleeping naps as per BJ's PCT. I thought that would be mistaken. So my bad.
I don't like taking Viagra or Cialis bro! Not saying.. I have never, but prefer not to take it because of the side effect of bad headaches. I take the supplement Citrulline at 2000mg a day for it's NO effect instead. Less side effects and amazing stamina! Having sex for hours is not impossible bro.. Never had any problems down there! Jeez.. Lots of rude reply's on this site if people have different opinions or results!
Joking about the gf pic bro. Really thought you were trolling at first. I have used Viagra a few times headaches and stuffy nose. Cialias doesn't do that to me though. That's great if you don't need any help from peecker meds.
I like suspension but just use it as a prework out. I don't think I could handle four or five shots of that a day for weeks on end. Hang around bro lots of decent guys here and tons of info.
For those not familiar with Test Suspension here is a good write up:
https://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Suspension.php
Test E,C, or prop should be a base for any cycle... From week 1-4 add one. If you were experienced enough you’d know that.
Test is test is test... Don't matter the ester! The Suspension just hits you faster & gets out of your system faster. Not much different than Prop! Suspension is actually the most potent. 100mg is actually 100mg where as 100mg of Cyp is actually only 69 mg of test because of the ester.
Don’t take any advice bro. Idgaf! You’ll just learn the hard way.
Not my first rodeo! No need to be rude; been doing this almost 30 years. Thanks for the advice, but all good here in every way! I must be doing something right!
jayisk....
Nope. I only got past weeks 1-4 and it's a no go. Suspension only weeks 1-4 would get to be injected 4x daily at 25 mg to maintain stable blood levels.
When you jump from suspension only to Cyp in week 5 you will have crashed test levels for at least two weeks until the cyp begins to stabilize. Probably longer.
Honestly I stopped reading there because it was already time to scrap it and start over.
If your going to cycle, KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid. No need for all of the different compunds and esters here. If your going to do this scrap the suspension and use cyp from day 1.
RustyhookerCycle looks wonky as hell to me. Suspension doesnt last long so dbol is your base? Looks kinda kitchen sink. Then long esters which got 4week to peak midway thru...yaya...no
Usually takes me 2-4 months to turn on Testosterone levels
Bullcrap...trolling for moopie in here?
BigCactusLol I was thinking the same but if this guy is gonna do suspension everyday for weeks I figured he must be advanced as fuck haha.
RustyhookerIf he was advanced as fuck...he would be pinning it every 4 hrs. Anyone can bump a spike.
BigCactus"Usually takes me 2-4 months to turn on Testosterone levels fully (meaning railing my girlfriend for hours without viagra or cialis)"
Personally I'd try not running HCG during the pct and blast it 2 weeks before with test suspension as a bridge into the pct.
I'd also run my clomid for 4 weeks instead of three.
Maybe that will help with your recovery.
I agree on the tren part, I'd die running the crazy doses some people are using. I've even used 100mg with excellent result next to a nice dose of test-e.
Ok....I'll add the Clomid for a forth week, but taper down to only 25mg a day!
PCT looks solid to me
jayiskThat is actually what the P stands for in PCT. Not Post...lol
Lmao
Seems to be a week thought out cycle. As you say, you know what works for you. I'm a big fan of Suspension, but sometimes its hard to find.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah.. I like it too in the beginning of a cycle as a major kickstart! I also get less water retention on it than the longer esters & get less shut down on it too.
AnonYou ever try timing that suspension and growth around meals? Your timing is probably pretty close because I'm assuming you're eating every couple hours.
Use the suspension for it's nutrient uptake capacity, and growth before meals. There's a million ways to skin a cat..just curious if you've played around with timing.
I'll look into it....I eat constantly like 8 times a day! I even wake up in the middle of the night & take down a protein shake, muffin, & yogurt! My biggest issue with Suspension is wanting to use a bigger gauge needle. Seems like many crystals don't get sucked up into a 23 guage needle. Was toying with the idea of using only 21 gauge this time. I've even used an 18 guage to suck all the crystals out of the amp and into the syring, but when I change the pin to 23 guage they won't all push thru or get clogged. I feel like I'm wasting some.... Sometimes I'll collect the crystals on the bottom of the ampule & pop them under my tongue instead of throwing it out! Would really be painful if I used an 18 guage, but all the crystals would push thru. #broscience.
I would run the cyp from the beginning that way its kicked in by week 5 when you lower the suspension. Nice cycle. Most wont like the amount of pinning but wouldnt bother me and obviously doesnt bother you lol. I am also a HUGE fan of tren hex. Whats your exact goal for this cycle?
Maybe....Do to all the feedback I'm getting. I'll add a very low dose of Cyp the first few weeks along w Suspension to keep a stabe Test level in between Suspension shots. Only 100mg because the Suspension is already 700mg a week! I respond very easy to gear... My goal this cycle is health firstly. By doing orals for only 4 weeks at the beginning & end; that should keep my liver enymes low. Secondly, I want to get my arms up to 20 inches! Right now I'm sitting at 19 inches & clean off juice for 8 months. I used to have to be on cycle just to have 19 inch arms. Hoping to break 20 inches on this cycle if all goes well.
AnonI don't think you count suspension towards your weekly total.
I count it as my total & here's why! It is a better pre workout for sure, but from my bloods in the past... My Test level usually fluctuated from 900-1250 doing 100mg of Suspension shots a day. I usually get a 8-9 hour spike! Some people get longer spikes of 12 hours.. Some people get shorter spikes of only 1 or 2 hours... Just depends on the person. Really not much more different than Prop that needs shots EOD... Suspension needs daily shots pref 2x 50mg a day! It's also depends on natural test levels. I dont blast & cruise & my test is already at 625 according to my bloods from being off cycle for almost 9 months!