posted Wed, 07/24/2013 - 19:45
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What was your shortest time off?
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I know the general rule of thumb is
time on + pct = time off. But I know a lot of people get impatient and run before. I've also heard of people running 20+ weeks!! I just wanna see what some of you have done in the past and how you felt about it.
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20 week cycles aren't un common, especially if your running eq or something like that, at the end of the day the time on plus time off is the general time frame, I always stick to it, but I also think the longer the better, that's the decision I have chosen, but im only 28 so I just use gear for a kickstart, ive ran 20 weeks before, I always follow proper pct protocol and make sure it is exactly on point, if you don't then your just cheating yourself, ive seen a lot of dudes lately on here who are just running gear fla tout with no break!! its kind of like tattoos, there cool now but what about when we get old?? gears the same do you want to ruin your life to be bigger and musclier now?? id love to see some honesty!! we are here to help other people do there cycles correctly and as safe as possible, but ill bet some of the dudes who give the advice actually abuse the roids them selves!!!!
Appreciate the advice man and input man. Yup an that's all I'm looking for man is honesty. I know what we're suppose to do butttttt what have you guys actully done regards to safety and rule of thumb. Thanks bro +1
6 weeks is my shortest time. Did a 12 week Test E cycle 500mg, 2 week wait before, PCT 3 week PCT did bloods a week after. Everything was fine, so I jumped straight back on the Test. Haha. Felt pretty good to be back on.
That's quick man, I'd say your pretty lucky to get your levels back to normal so quick ?
I guess I am when it comes to test only cycles. 19-nors are a lot more difficult to recover from for me a good 10 weeks.
I gotcha man, thanks for the input man.
ClassyChassisI ran Test Prop and Tren A, pinning 75mg of each ED for a bout a year and a half with about a 6 wk period off in the middle somewhere there. I wouldn't recommend it. My balls were like non-existent. You have to realize that you're not really "off" until 5 half-lives after the longest ester you ran. For the longer esters this is going to be about 7 weeks. Many people start and end their pct too soon.not realizing this.
What I do now is front load with the enan ester. 1-1/2x my weekly dose right off the bat. Get things going. Then 3-1/2 days later I'll just pin 1/2 my weekly dose and continue that every 3-1/2 days.And I'll run the enan for 8 weeks. This is going to equate to about a 15-16 wk cycle when it's all said and done. 8 weeks of pinning and then about another 7 weeks before the enan is clear. So I wait 10 days after my last enan pin to let my serum levels drop a tad, and then start running prop at about the same weekly mg amount as the enan.
The prop is going to take about 10 days to clear, so I stop it about a week before the enan is due to be clear. I run arimidex starting at the beginning of the 3rd wk at the minimum amount necessary, which may vary, all the way until I calculate I'm clear. I'll use hCG @ 333iu twice a week at weeks 5,6,7,8 and again @ weeks 13,14,15,16. (I've come to appreciate my balls).
So at week 17, I should be clear, shouldn't have any estro floating around, and my balls should be in reasonable shape. Now I'll run low dose iGF1-LR3 (20 mcg/day) for another 7 weeks. This will only take 1 mg iGF1 but will keep me slightly anabolic while my HTPA recovers. I may also start clomid at wk 17 to kickstart the HTPA recovery process if I feel I need it.
So all together, this has taken about 24 weeks. Take another 2 off for good measure and repeat. That comes out to 2 cycles a year. I feel this method to be the most effective for me as I'm anabolic pretty much all the time, I recover well, and the expense isn't too bad. No more raisin sack for me.
This answer may have been overkill for your topic, but this is my perspective now, based upon what I've done in the past.
A year and a half man that's crazy!! Lol how'd you feel on and off? Did you keep most of your gains? Balls ever come back? Sorry with all the questions just curious man. Thanks for you input.
ClassyChassisI felt great while on, typical superman shit. Just some shortness of breath eventually, like climbing a couple flights of stairs would have me breathing heavily. Kinda short fuse as well...I finally took a year off entirely. Felt pretty crappy for a few months tbh. Yeah, my balls are fine now, I forget how long it took but it was some months, I know that. That was like 6 years ago.
I was also running 100mcg/day iGF1 with it and I weighed about 265-270 and I wasn't fat. Right now I'm about to do my first cycle in maybe 2 years and I'm 6-2, 227lbs at about 7-8%. So, about 40lbs less, but I still look good and I'm still pretty strong, but not nearly as. Although I actually feel a lot better not lugging all that weight around, and the purpose of this cycle is to focus on strength more than size. Also I was taking in close to 1000g protein a day and even with most of it being powder, it was still a chore.
You are one crazy ass mother fucker! that's for sure bro lol glad to here all is well now and your back in the game. Good luck with your next cycle man.