+ 3 Time for Cycle #2
Hey guys!
Well after being off and letting my body get back down to normal levels it's time for cycle #2.
Current Stats:
Age: 27
Height 5'9"
Weight 216
BF 12%
Training Habits: 7 days per week. 5 day split (Chest, Arms, Back, Shoulders, Chest)
Cardio: Typically stair master about 3-4 times per week. Although I ride mountain bikes and hike so I sometimes sub.
Goal: Keep my diet in check and a lean bulk. I'd like to add some size while knocking my BF% down a couple points through diet.
First cycle thoughts:
Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E Every week; Split to two injections (mon/thurs)
Weeks 4-12: AI- 12.5mg ED Aromasin
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex ed; 100mg Clomid ed
Weeks 16-18 20 mg Nolvadex ed; 50mg Clomid ed
You guys have been a huge help to me, especially through my first cycle and everything went as well as it could. The only thing that I noticed through my first cycle was my water retention is quite high. I started somewhere around 210, and ended up getting all the way up to 230 quickly due to the water retention. First cycle, gotta learn how my body reacts right?! I started my AI (Aromasin) around week 4, I'm thinking of starting a light dose at the end of Week 2 this time. I saw my strength sky rocket and size increase dramatically.
Now for cycle number two, I'd like to start this off with a Test P kicker and add in Proviron throughout my cycle. Do you think I will see the water retention and gyno effects nearly as much with the added Proviron? My thoughts are to start my AI a little earlier to prevent that water retention spike and because I'm doing a test P kicker. Maybe around Week 2.5? Or because of the short ester test, start a little sooner?
Here is my thoughts for cycle #2
Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E Every week; Split to two injections (mon/thurs)
Weeks 1-12: 50mg Proviron ED
Week 1-4: 100mg Test P EOD
Weeks 2.5- 12: AI- 12.5mg ED Aromasin
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex ed; 100mg Clomid ed
Weeks 16-18 20 mg Nolvadex ed; 50mg Clomid ed
Overall, what are your thoughts?
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Looks like you are all set so the only thing I'll comment on is your "lean" bulk. Yeah you can gain a little bit muscle and lose a little bit of fat with your cycle but you can't do both real well. Probably could end up with nearly the same results without even doing a cycle. So I would recommend you use your cycle to lose a ton of fat or pack on some serious muscle. Trying to do both at the same time will leave you with half-assed results for fat loss and likely not spectacular gains in muscle mass.
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Yeah I know. I appreciate it. The more I think about it the more I realize I'm going for size. I didn't really know which was more important to me. What I really meant was a clean bulk. Really grab hold of my diet with lean meats and lean eating while still integrating plenty of carbs, just keep the fat down a bit. Unless you guys suggest another option?
I would look into one of these methods for your bulk. I also don't see legs in your workout rotation. What's up with that?
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Oh shoot, that's because I wrote chest twice! Legs are definitely in there as well! I actually typically squat one more day a week. I had knee surgery about a year ago so keeping my legs strong and healthy is a priority.
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Everything looks good to me aside from your fixed ai dose. This will need adjusting based on how you react to aro, and if you even need it. Great Proviron post in anabolic forum just posted that links to alot of good info regarding estrogen done by 56too awhile back.
12.5mg aro ED crashed my estro in 10 days. We all react different, so start small then adjust after getting Bloodwork. You wont necessarily need to take an ai throughout tour cycle....
Point is, dont lock yourself into 12.5mg aromasin ED...as ai dosing needs to be adjustable. Read through the post by Rusty...explains a lot.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^^ great call.
Aro is really strong so starting at half dose and adjust as/if needed. Prior bloods will help. New bloods at week 5 will be awesome as you can see the reactions and map the body.
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Thank you! Come to think of it, I meant EOD. I was using an oral suspension aromasin last time and looked at the dosage and looked at my syringe and realized I was doing 6.25 ED. Half life of Aromasin should allow me to do it EOD while keeping bloods stable if I remember correctly? I'm definitely not locked, especially because I'm adding provi and a kicker!
Pretty good cycle , good luck bud!
Looks good. Get BW. Administer Provi in divided doses for more stable blood levels. So, 25mg a.m. and 25mg p.m.
I like the idea of Provi being initiated at the beginning of cycle, especially with TP kicker.
Watch for signs/sx of E2 in both directions...12.5mg ed will catch up with u quick...monitor for achy joints....
Rustyhooker^^^nice!!
Hey bro I just realized your cycle says 12.5mg aro on cycle but what about post cycle? I would drop it to 6.25mg during first couple weeks of pct.
Ah yeah I meant to write that. I tapered off for 6.25mg for my two weeks off and then started PCT with Nolva and clomid
Because the prop is short ester your sides might show up soon so I would start taking the AI as soon as your nips start getting itchy or even barely sore to push on. This cycle looks pretty good to me for a 2nd cycle. Happy gains bro!
RustyhookerSymptoms. ....nice add
Cycle looks good brotha +1 Enjoy your run