posted Wed, 01/18/2012 - 05:38
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THE BEST DAMN SECOND CYCLE PERIOD.
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So lets consider you were ending your first cycle of test 600mg a week for 12 weeks.
& you were planning out a 2nd cycle in advance...
but you didn't want to use deca,anadrol,winstrol, or eq.
What would your 2nd cycle consist of? and why?
(Also! Doesn't have to be long ester cycle either.)
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I’m thinking test/Anavar 600 mg weekly/40 mg mg daily > 10 days HCG 500iu daily after last pin > 2 weeks Nova/Clomid 100/40 daily > 2 weeks nova Clomid 50/20. Question though anyone think swapping the Anavar for DBol would be advantageous if your goal is to get bigger??? Or would you just be setting yourself up for aromatase issues??
whats up guys. I was out of the scene for about 10 years but recently came back about 2 years ago, lost a shitload of weight with just diet. First cycle back was strait up Test E 400 mg /wk for 10wks. Great gains , second cycle 10 wks later.
50mg Tren Ace e3d
250 mg TestE wk
200mg EQ wk
All for 10 wks. My first shot at Tren Ace, some crazy shit, but not as Hardcore as everyone has made it out to be. Biggest issue for me was the psychological about 2 weeks into my pct, but all good now and will do it again maybe once a year. IMO EQ rules for long lasting results.
mazarWhy not exactly the same as the first cycle? You dont need other compounds yet 600mg will do you just fine. Add some tprop if you insist
Said it before. Ive been juicing for 11yrs + never use tren and almost never use orals. I still run test only cycles. U can find a pic i posted of my back and tell me if u think my gains have suffered from no tren. Used it before and bro imo its just not worth the risks for me.
EQ rules
if it a second cycle 750 test e with a prop kicker/taper no need to get all clever and shit, test works juuuust fine... and it will help you get your pinning down
6-8 week prop cycle...done
My choice will have to be prop for sure added into next cycle. I would love to pin ED cuz im sick like that. I look forward to pinning now. Im currently running test e only :( 4 weeks is a long time to wait. And maybe some TREN! just kid n. lol
Take your time guys, run a bunch of other compounds before you jump on Tren. Trust me you will thank me later when you finally do run it. Which I hope is a couple years from now.
For sure bro. Im deffinately gonna wait a while. Its on the bottom of my list of compounds to try. I know its strong as fuck but so are the sides.
Fuck that just never run tren, why? If ur eating good and training hard, but u still want to cut, just use prop, and maybe mast or npp instead of tren. Idc about the sides, we can deal with sweats and what not, but that shit is for cows that are about to get slaughtered they aint thinkin about what its gna so long term lol. bro tren fucks your body up IMO. I know vets at the gym who say if they could take it back they would of never fucked with tren. I understand if u compete, or maybe if u run a lil 6 wks on tren, but honestly knowing myself id like it too much and then bam I use it every other cycle or somethin. A lot of ppl will diagree with everything I just said, but know thats just my opinion, tren is just not for me... anytime soon lol
Now her is a guy who is thinking long term not short term. Lets not forget tren was never meant for human consumption, as you said its for cows that are about to get slaughtered. God only now's what kind of long term effects it can have on humans. I can't sit her and tell these guys not to run it, since i already have. What i will say is like the vets at your gym i also wish i could go back and stay clear of tren. I would also like to add that yes you can achieve anything tren will get you using other compounds.
Im pretty much down to try almost anything once. No gay shit tho. NO HOMO. I realize that tren is some scarry shit and thats why its on the bottom of my list. I got a long time to think it over. Maybe with more time and research I might not try tren. If I do eventually try it a long time from now I'll make sure I don't abuse it and run it very moderately for a 6 week cycle. I just can't see myself read about it all the time and not try it once for myself to see how it really is.
Yo eatbig were real close in age,cycle history,weight,and what not so I added you. We can talk about tren sometime we at least gotta try it once haha!
ya bro we can talk anytime
AnonAgreed,
preferably 5+ years lol
bro you don't even know how bad I wanna run tren it's so tempting but for the better I will hold off a little. ;[
me too. I got a while tho, im only on cycle #1
Yeah after posting this I realize my only choices really are....
1)Test only cycles
2)Test/Dbol or Test/Anavar
3)Test/Masteron/Oral
or
TREN LOL DUN DUN DUN...
Don't do that to me bro. I feel bad for the next guy that wants to run Tren early. I'm going to chew em a new one.
Haha!!! Bro it's so tempting only because my options are limited and it is beastmode. If I did I wouldn't run much maybe 250mg a week for 6 weeks. Haha I'm kidding though I think maybe 3rd or 4th cycle. I'm trying to get to 220 before I hop on the tren train.
Smart man, I like the way you think.
Yeah you too. I think introducing my body to tren at 220 would give me a lot of room to grow. Then I guess after that it's time for HGH/slin. However I'm petrified of insulin so maybe just hgh.
AnonWeek 1-8 Test Prop EOD
Week 1-8 Masteron Prop EOD
Anavar 1-5 @ 50mg daily
-beautiful short cycle to harden and cut up.. The masteron acts as an AI so you wouldn't run into on cycle gyno issues. The Var is fairly mild rather than a bombs or dbol.. short in length for a change up..
I really like that cycle Joose. It is beautiful.
Anonthanks bro. it introduces the still rookie user to EOD injections, while still staying on the safe side with the compounds..
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYeah definitely the two compounds I'm itching to try. Masteron simply because I have a lower bf% and the effects seem pretty cool and also anavar for the pumps/strength. Seems like Masteron/Anavar would be best friends to be honest.
Bro if your body fat is low enough, you will love mast. Good solid gains, love it.
Yeah even on test E you can see my serratus still. No bloat at all! loving it.
Anonyup. plus you gotta realize masteron is a really weak AI agent... so it would almost replace needed to take any AI while on cycle due to the chance of gyno flare up from the test.. other than that.. its a great choice. I love the concept of shorter cycles like this as well..spring will be here before we know it.. might be a nice run!
Yeah I'll most def keep some adex/asin on stand by anyways. Shorter cycles are the way to go for me from now on. I wanna keep my balls going strong, keep my receptors clean, keep estro low, get the compounds in and get em out asap! Of course all while having a great cycle in the midst.
X2 I'm win Cali on this one.
Jtizzlehardcore has a good one , also maybe a 4 wk. d-bol kickstarted cycle of test e with prop taper at the end...
Nasty81NateAdd dbol or deca