+ 1 Test E, NPP, Dbol
Test E 400mg/ml
Dbol 10mg
Cialis 25mg
Aromasin 25 mg
Going in to my 7th week
I pin 3x a week
Test e 500mg ( broke down with the npp for 3x a week)
Npp 250mg
Dbol 30mg (10 mg 3x a day)
Aromasin 12.5 EOD just started started to feel a lil tender around the side of the nips.
Cialis 12.5 every 3 days
I use 1.5 inch 3ml 23g to draw and pin
Other supplements
Creating mono 5g
Pump lord- pre with Dbol
Glycosurge - instant post
Hydrate one - eaa, electrolyte, mineral, vitamin.
Dozer -sleep
Protein always varies, I like the dymatize or the iso clear.
I do get most protein through food.
5% liver and organ defender. Using it until it runs out and then straight NAC
Apple cider, ginger, turmeric, garlic, pink Himalayan salt, cayenne pepper. Everyday
Gal a day water
I Switch pinning locations between glutes and thighs
For some reason I’ve been hesitant to try the shoulder.
Looking for a lil advice on other Im locations too. These spots are getting little tender even if I alternate.
Any and all comment welcome good/ bad ehhh
I’ll update bmi details on another have to get scanned
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I have a slightly different take on how I'd pin that cycle, based on the gear you've got there
Mon - TestE 0.63 mL (250 mg)
Tues - NPP 0.83 mL
Wed - nothing
Thur - NPP 0.83 mL
Fri - TestE 0.63 mL
Sat - NPP 0.83 mL
Sun - nothing
Rotate 6 injection sites - delts, gluts, quads, across those 5 injection days, so it's over a week between each site.
Keeps steady levels of the NPP and TestE, and you can use a smaller bore needle, should glide right in.
I love dbol but agree with everyone else ..too much water
I would drop the dbol man it’s not really worth it just gonna add some water and strength gains but it’s all gonna be gone once u take it out so there’s no point only trashing your lipids unfortunately
Looks solid to me
Why npp instead of deca with test e?
I plan on doing the same but want to see your reasoning
To be 100% honest. It was a quick grab for me.
Originally I was looking at running Primo or Deca instead of npp. The npp was an instant source. So I was like sure why not after all the good talk on here.
Reading the comments, I don’t figure it would be too late to switch out and finish the rest with Deca.
Going into my 7 week shooting to 14-16 weeks
I guess this kinda answers MARKY’s comment too.
You made a Wise choice Luke my son KAAAaaaawwww - NPP is much more fun to be on than Deca and has less sides. Works much more quickly too.
I know everyone differs and prefers lol. Seems like npp vs deca is on the fence line. Even in other discussions and comments.
The guys who will generally say Deca is better tend to be the ones who have cycled gear for many years, they will be unwilling to try NPP because in their eyes Deca is the Bigger compound being as it is dosed higher. But once they try NPP, I have seen many say actually you were right, its way better to run and feels much more energetic and positive as a compound thats in you 24hrs a day.
Very well said, thanks for the input.
You might as well just finish it the npp. Try deca next time if you want and you'll know what u like better. You do have to do deca for a long time and wait about 8 weeks to start getting full effects. Unlike npp
Got my mind made up. That’s what I’m doing. Sometimes all the talk can make one’s mind go squirrel hahaha
Congratulations.
MARKYHi bud!
Here are some tips for you.
1. Try to use in your cycle compositions with similar T1/T2 values(Test E & Deca instead of NPP)
2. Reduce the number of injections to 2 (not 3).
It will help you to make your cycle more predictable and give injection locations some rest. Also it will reduce the risk of excessive aromatization.
Think about it in the context of how many injections you're doing in total. During 16-week cycle you will make 32 injections (if you pin 2x a week) instead of 54 injections (if you pin 3x a week).
Just consider the difference. There's no need to overload your body unnecessarily.
Pretty much in the nutshell. Grab Deca and drop the npp.
Go back to 2x a week.
Just fyi “excessive aromatization” will come from less frequent injections causing larger swings in hormone changes. More frequent injections = more stability and shortening that amplitude between peak and trough = less aromatization.
MARKYI don't agree. Why you don't take into account the difference between long and short esters? And we say about pin of Deca twice per week.
Such twice-weekly dosing regimen is used everywhere for long esters and it's quite enough to avoid the extreme peaks you're talking about.
That’s fine you don’t agree. Doesn’t change that you’re wrong. We aren’t arguing subjective opinions here. You stated something that was objectively false.
“ 2. Reduce the number of injections to 2 (not 3).…..Also it will reduce the risk of excessive aromatization”
That is pharmacologically incorrect. Period.
MARKYThere are a lot of guys here who see only what they want to see. You have decided to follow this path.
Reread what I wrote again. This includes replacing NPP to Deca. Don't take individual sentences out of context!
Any short esters are more likely to cause aromatization and problems with prolactin than long esters in the same dosage (in counting to free form without esters). it is precisely because of the rapid achievement of the peak.
I took nothing out of context. Regardless of the ester, more frequent pinning will always yield more stable hormone levels, thus less excess aromatization. I don’t see what I want to see. I see what the science dictates. You, however, are seeming to peddle bro-science as if it’s literature. Is there a point of diminishing returns? Sure.
But you stating dropping from more pins to less (again regardless of the ester), will reduce the risk of over aromatization is patently false.
Oh and equal dose of short ester to long ester would be significantly LESS hormone in your system. Even if we took ester weight out of the equation. Longer half-life would equate to much more build-up in your system vs a short ester being metabolized out quicker. If you pin NPP Monday, is that dose still in your system come Saturday? No. If you pin Deca Monday, is that dose still in your system come Saturday? Yes. Which of those scenarios is going to more likely lead to “excess aromatization” once you add additional hormone to the equation?
MARKYEverything you wrote now is absolutely true. The only problem is that you misunderstood me.
My suggestions relate to the practical side of the matter: wtx313 is experiencing a shortage of injection sites.
This means that one of the solutions to the problem is to reduce the number of injections. How to do this with minimal effort, but keeping cycle?
I think replacing nandrolone ester to decanoate is a good option. This can be done and switched from NPP to Deca if the duration of its cycle allows.
That's why I'm writing about replacing esters and reducing the number of injections as a solution to the specific problem described by topic starter. All that is written below paragraphs 1 and 2 are consequences, not the cause.
We can verify whether my words are true using accurate data and recalculating the weekly dosages for NPP and Deca to get the same amounts of free nandrolone. But I don't really want to do that. I was a rowdy in elementary school and college, and I still don't like math.
T1/T2 values??????
I liked both - But T3 was rubbish despite having a fit bird in a leather jump suit in it.
I’m working on getting blood work and all done.
I should have before.
But I wanted to get about half way, after I introduced the npp and Dbol.
Yes the side of my pecs where nips are kinda tinder, maybe like they are very warm/ hot. So I started aromasin 12.5 mg Sunday and doing EOD
Might not have anything to do with estrogen. You can narrow it down that way tho
MARKYT1/2.
I still have no clue what your trying to refer too.