posted Mon, 12/04/2017 - 02:58
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Test E Deca cycle advice
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I am on TRT 125mg a week prescribed by my GP also taking 0.5 of Arimdex x2 a week
I have recently completed a Twelve week Test E only cycle with great results ( 500mg per week)
I`m Looking at running a Test E Deca cycle I have read lots of different info some people say to also add HCG to the mix
I was thinking of running a 16 week cycle week 1-16 500mg Test E and Week 1-14 running 400mg Deca per week
AT the completion of the cycle returning to my TRT dose.
What are your thoughts on this and should I use HCG or not.
Thanks in Advance.
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Test E and Deca is my winter go to, I put on a ton of mass, throw in some caber though. You can get deca dick, if you can get hard, but you might not be able finish, not fun. Caber helps out with that, mix a little tada and you're golden. The research is out there adding tada in has a ton of benefits too.
RustyhookerHe just did his first cycle bro
The information that I'm posting was written by Thomas Beaver but I believe it will benefit you as well as it helped me better understand HCG when I asked. "Testosterone production and spermatogenesis in the testis are under the control of the pituitary gland. An hormonal signal (stimulus) from the pituitary tells the testis to produce testosterone. This hormonal signal is controlled by a "negative feedback" loop. Which means that as testosterone levels rise the signal (stimulus) from the pituitary decreases. This loop keeps the system in "steady state". Exogenous testosterone acts on the pituitary negative feedback loop suppressing the signal (stimulus) to the testis. So testosterone therapy shuts down natural production and testicular activity. HCG has a structure that is similar to the hormone signal secreted by the pituitary to stimulate spermatogenesis and production of testosterone in testis. So use HCG to stimulate the testis when the normal stimulus is suppressed by exogenous testosterone. ". Now I noticed you're on TRT, I'm assuming your point of cycling HCG is to keep fertility, if so then as Giardap said it would be of value.
basskiller89I would say 500mg test e is plenty for a 16 week cycle
You had great results on test only. Keep with that for your next cycle, maybe add proviron. Deca is strong stuff, if you wait till you really need it, aka test only cycles stop working? Then that deca is going to come in strong and push you to the next level. If you up the drugs now you'll plateau that much faster.
You may not want to jump into a cycle with a 19nor yet. You are opening up a whole new can worms that can bite you hard, especially with the potential management of prolactin issues now. Not worth the hassle right now IMO. If you had great results with 500mg test e, then stick with it.
Rustyhooker^^^^^agree. Or add provi. No need for a big stack.
Hashtag1981I was also going to run Deca or NPP along with test E , but also decided to step it up with provi instead...good cycle without the harsh shutdown.
RustyhookerGood to hear your success!
Thanks for the advice Makwa
Do yourself a favour (if you are pushing ahead with deca)... stay on trt dose only and play with the deca from there (very low test = no cycle-induced estrogen or prolactin issues), particularly if planning to use hcg, which you should do... read TwistedSister's hcg forum for pointers.
Why suggest HCG if he’s on HRT? Just curious of the reasoning.
Well.... Vialli, like myself is no spring chicken so I shouldnt presume this could be a factor, but, if he is a rock star and bags a nice little 20yo trophy wife and fertility is an issue thrn HCG will be of value.
There are a few other reasons though... aesthetics obviously, matters to some. Comfort...If you dont want your balls so small they can retreat into your stomach, particularly during sex, them keeping them full helps. Also, if you are going to ride test very low (i am now a firm believer in this) thrn there is actually something to be gained from the estrogen created in the testes while using hcg.... that is to say, whilst running test low enough not to need ai or serms. Estro is so important for libido and anabolism as well as mental/cognitive function. Thrn there is also the fact that if done rightly in pulses you are keeping parts of the hpga relatively normal and, depending on the type of hypogonadism will make some natural testo too, again decreasing the need for exog testo. I know this can seem complicated or maybe contrived... but there is a benefit to min effective dosing for everything and anything that brings the body closer to homeostasis be it hormonally or physically, is a good thing imo. That said its also important to pulse it so as not to desensotise over time. Same goes with using very low dosing... 250iu 2 x per week. 3x max.
Its all subjective though, naturally... some people just cgaf and are happy out!
Thanks for advice giardap will check out Twisted Sister's hcg forum
Nice cycle, getting ready to do the same one again. Really enjoyed the joint relief while on deca.
I would say no on the hcg, if you're going back on trt there's no need to keep your nuts kicking. IMO
Cheers Cummin can`t wait to start now :-)