posted Thu, 11/10/2011 - 15:32
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Body Fat: about 7 or 8 percent
Weight:145 (height only 5'5)
Training natural for 4 years
21 years old
week 1-6: Dbol 40 mg
week 1-8 test prop 150 mg eod ipamorellin 200 mg ed
i will be taking liv 5.2 and milk thistle throughout the cycle
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AnonI'm surprised you haven't been jumped on for your age. I'm only 22 so these guys scold me all the time lol. Just start with a test only cycle like they said bro, these guys wont steer you wrong.
ok i think im going to just run the test, see how i react, then add the dbol for the next cycle. atleast i got some stock up for the next cycle i guess. thanks everyone for the input!
tread-mGood choice...eat your way to the goal, whatever that may be.
tread-mLet me ammend my original post....the reason again for running test only is so you learn your baody and the compounds one at a time to know whats doing what and know what is causing problems if you have them.....a very important note if you are prone to gyno through predisposition, obvious or not, dbol added to your test can explode a gyno problem out of control over night. If you do have the predisposition and these 2 do explode your gyno and create new breast tissue you could have issues from now on with or without gear. To take the word of someone who had no gyno issues and says this is ok on a first cycle is big trouble if you are predisposed to gyno......slow down and do it right.
and also this link, actually SUGGESTS dianabol in a first cycle as a nice addition. i think maybe i should cut the dosage on the dbol to see how my body reacts more though.
tread-mLet me tell you the difference between myself and your link in terms of advice...I dont have anything to sell you.
http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php
and also the only reason to run test by it self is essentially to see if i get side effects, now if i get no side effects with the dbol along side with the prop then i should be fine. but if i do happen to get sides during the cycle then i can stop taking the dbol. if i continue getting sides then it is clear that the dbol is the culpret, if i dont stop then its clear that the prop is. but aside from gyno im not sure what side effect would really be a very big issue, i mean maybe a bit of acne but i have a few products for that already on hand. and as far as male pattern baldness goes there is none on my mothers side.
but i was planning on taking ancillaries DURING the cycle, just because id rather be safe than sorry and also i am trying to avoid bloat. woulnt this prevent gyno even if i do happen to be prone to it?
tread-mYou need to come in right at about 500 mg test e or c split, adex on hand and pct following and add one compound per cycle. If you dont mind the pip with prop on your first cycle then you need 150 ed or 300 eod to equal the same values as a long ester. Prop drops out at around 48hrs dead in 72 on the long side. So given you only have a max of 400 mg's in your system at a given time that comes closer to having 500 in your system of long ester. 150 ed would be ideal so you're not having to double pin or push too much oil in one site on the eod. A lot of trouble for a first time gear user and probably a hell of a lot of pip! You could taper it with prop at the end but I would run a simple test e to bring yourself into the gear.
also i was considering putting some winstrol in there to try and keep a bit cut, wasnt sure if itd be too much for my liver
Itd be worse on your joints then your liver, and u seem like a lean guy anyways so the prop will be enough to keep you cut imo there is less water retention with prop versus enanthate or cypionate. Although I dont know how the kigs will affect you being cut because ive never used HGH, im sure tread can shed some light on that tho
im not using hgh im using ipamorellin which is a peptide. it causes your body to produce more hgh itself.
tread-m1st real cycle? Aside of orals or peps etc....
the only thing ive ever used is a few peptides, never any steroids (injectable or oral)