posted Wed, 06/27/2012 - 01:12
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Second Cycle Planning - Test Advice
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Morning dudes,
Finished my 1st cycle a month ago. Was happy with the results, gained around 7lbs and increased my strength weight training wise. I'm planning for my 2nd cycle, start first week of September, researching steroid and PCT sources for quality and thinking about what I will take for the 12 week 2nd cycle.
I completed the 1st with Test Cyp, 250mgs every Tuesday and Saturday and plan the same regime again. I would like to bulk out this time in size, so, is there any harm in doing just Test Cyp again? Maybe increase the mg levels per week to a higher dose? Or can you more experienced eroiders recommend another test (SUS or P/E?) that would give better results over Cyp?
Thanks again for all the advice given.
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JonBThanks for all the replies. I need to address my diet now and for the 2nd cycle, and I will look into Test E. I used Veyron test Cyp last cycle. I was and still have a needle phobia, but 'kind words' on here led me to bite the bullet and give it a go. Buttocks was the easier site for injecting, no pain, no feeling whatsoever. Thighs were okay but suffered the odd vein nick!
THIS IS THE BEST QUESTION EVER!!! OF COURSE IT IS PERFECTLY FINE TO TAKE TEST ONLY FOR A 2ND CYCLE!!!
seriously, nothing wrong with test only.. looks like you need a significant bump in calories and protien, but like they said below, it all starts in the kitchen bro. good luck and happy bulking
AnonI love helping guys who think like this. shows common sense and asks all the right questions.
AnonWell it's commonly thought that Test Enanthate is a little better for Bulking. Cyp seems to give drier gains. I personally love the Watson Cyp and Paddock Cyp I get for my TRT. Stick with a single ester Test for now. Cyp or Enanthate
Honestly bud your goals can always be achieved in the kitchen homie. What was your caloric intake last cycle? Bump it up:-) 4500-5000 cals a day minimum. 1.5-2 grams of protein for every pound of bodyweight. Also lower the volume of your routines and increase the intensity. Heavy Ass Weight homie!!!!
Gotta ask where's the AI and PCT. Every cycle has to have OCT and PCT to be complete. Good luck homie, happy gaining.
JonBAgain, thanks for the advice. You got me there on nutrition. I upped my calorie intake last cycle to around 3000 a day, now dropped down to normal daily intake, but this is were I fail! Sorry to say but I can and did ruin training days with junk food. I got my cooking skills perfect especially with chicken and pasta but I go and spoil it by gorging on chocolate/crisps in the evening or takeaway food instead of chucking a chicken in the oven. F**ked up some training days because I was so sluggish and bloated. Its an area I need to address and plan for next cycle as well as now.
PCT last cycle was Adex eod or when needed, and clomid/Tami which I'm just finishing. Also taking a mix of Tribulus and BCAAs as a supplement. Only downside to the whole cycle was the last week of test. I believe I had a 'rouge' batch of test which I used for a number of weeks, switched to a new batch and didn't add the 'lost' weeks on to my cycle (stuck to the 12 weeks). For the two weeks I waited to start PCT I was like a zombie. No energy, well-being zero (but not depressed) and general fatigue. Hopefully, next cycle, through research and these forums, I'll find a quality supplier of test and PCTs so can go confidently to the next cycle.
zewiWhen it comes to a diet it is hard. However, what I always do is not only plan out my cycle I plan my diet. Write it all down for 36 weeks 12 before 12 on 12 after. You can have an off day, we all do.
Thing is if you plan your diet- like you do your cycle it will be easier to stay on it.
Now that your goal is set, it’s on you. Challenge yourself, its mental having a strict diet. That’s why I always start before a cycle getting my diet in check. SO by the time your Cycle starts man your body is in overdrive, and now your adding nos(gear) and taking full advantage of it., and your diet is one less thing to worry about. Now you’re just throwing weights around. Got to love that shit..
If you train hard, you'll not only be hard, you'll be hard to beat. So stop fucking around…
AnonGospel
Diet is the hardest thing about running gear IMO.
AnonMy wife is on a diet plan called Hernried's. Some of the nutritional info she has gotten says 16oz of salmon is the equivalent of 6oz of steak. Except that serving of salmon has more Protein. Incorporate lots of Salmon into your diet. It has lots of other good stuff like Omega 3 in it. Eat clean, eat a lot, and you'll grow with the right mix of workout regimen and the right cal intake. Read up on Macros and find a right mix for your body type and one to fit your goals.
You sound like me on PCT. I always get the PCT blues. Never fails. But that is what seperates the men from the boys. Hard work, dedication, and an iron will to stay on your program really is a fulltime job. Keep reading this site from top to bottom and you'll find Legit Srcs for all of your AAS/PCT/OCT needs homie. Shit thats exactly why BFG made this site. To help Guys just like you that are looking for GTG suppliers.
JonBThanks for that mate. And salmon, only just fell in love with this! In fact, had it on Monday, a lovely big chunk! The local supermarket sells oven-bags which I use to steam the salmon as well as chicken. Always comes out perfecto! And I agree with your comments about this website. When I started researching AAS last year, there was so many different sources. Eroids fitted exactly what I needed in regards to advice, information and source reviews. I've been able to make some good choices because of this website. 10 out of 10 to the owners, the commentators and everyone connected!
zewigood stuff.
zewiYeah you can do another TEST C cycle if you want no harm in that. And you would be fine running a little higher like 600mg a week. However, usually after the first cycle and going to your second most not everyone adds Deca to the mix. However, there is no rush in doing this. If you want to do another 12 weeks with just TEST C I support that and I’m sure everyone here will.
Crawl,walk,run. Also, I suggest getting blood work done before your next cycle. It’s a good way to make sure your body is back to a naturel state, but also a way to see your base, and then get tested around week 9 too see were your body is on gear.
Good to see someone taking their time, and asking all the right questions.
JonBThank you! My next blood test is next month (the NHS doc is brilliant!). As for Deca, I may have read wrong, but I'm on Dutasteride and I believe Deca will reverse the results from this medication?
And I like your 'crawl, walk, run' comment! I now know and understand that results take time, are not instant, and need research, advice and patience. Cheers dude!