Question for experienced Primo users
I'm just about to finish up a Test and Primo cycle. Not my first time using test by any means, but it was my first time with Primo. Was running 750mg test per week, and 600mg per week of Primo.
After my last cycle and PCT, I dropped down from about 190lbs to 175lbs. My diet went to shit and so did my training after PCT which was the result of me losing so much. I started this last cycle of test and primo at 175lbs and I'm ending it right around 207lbs. Of all the cycles I've done of test without Primo, I have never put on more than 15-20lbs. 30 lbs was unheard of for me. My diet was better this time and I also trained a bit harder which largely accounts for such a big gain in lbs.
My strength gains and weight gain were obviously much higher this time around with the Primo added, than with just Test alone.
My question is this - Is this what it is to be expected from using Primo in a cycle? I did not ad any extra body fat, and I feel like I retained less water this time than I did on 750mg of test by itself without the primo. Yes I got bigger, yes I got stronger, and added 30 lbs without really looking like I added that much weight, if that makes sense. My definition improved and I got a bit more cut, but that can happen with test alone when diet is in check.
I feel like it would have been nearly impossible on test alone to ad 30 lbs without looking like I was using steroids, and especially without adding to my body fat percentage, at least a little bit, and to maintain definition.
So was this the Primo at work, or can I simply attribute this to test, training hard, and having a good diet alone? The only other thing I did differently this time outside of adding Primo was Aromasin instead of Adex.
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Kimble, I don't think you mentioned which brand primo you used. Care to share? I'm really interested in primo for my next cycle but haven't quite decided which lab/source to go with.
Veyron. It worked well, but smelled terrible. There is also a lot of pain associated with it. The pain didnt bother me so much, but if you are one to be fairly sensitive to PIP then I would stay away from veyron because it packs a punch. My ass was swollen 24-7.
Im wondering if your last primo batch was bunk? This time you hit it!
Well I haven't used Primo before, only oil I've used previously has been test. I feel like the weight I did gain was all lean muscle. I definitely worked for it this time, that's for sure. Have you used Primo before?
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sounds like this would be my next cycle since i got tbol and test already on hand just need primo. which test did u used brother?
I used Veyron Test E for the first half. I ran out and had to switch it up to the Geneza I had on hand. I'm not sure if my results were typical or not since it was my first time with Primo, but I felt a lot better overall on this cycle than all previous cycles. I was told by a few people that are die hard believers in Primo to expect big things. The bitch is having to run it at 600mg per week when there is only 100mg per ml and its very expensive. However, I gained 30lbs and stayed slim so I'm assuming it was mostly all lean muscle gain, rather than water or fat. And that is worth every penny in my opinion.
I also used Aromasin which is far superior to anastrozole in my opinion. What are you using for an AI? Aromasin will actually increase your IGF levels which is a huge plus. Its less toxic than anastrozole and is less harsh on your lipids and blood pressure. Also kills the aromatase enzyme while anastrozole just blocks it thus leaving you with a huge surge in estrogen when you come off and start PCT.
Keep me posted if you run this cycle, I'd love to hear about your results with it.
So what labs are you using? Sounds like damn good shit. Lol
Haha I know it sounds a little hard to believe. I killed it this cycle, diet, training, etc... I also forgot to mention that I started the cycle with Tbol which helped get my strength back up pretty quickly, and contributed a great deal to the end result.
I was using all Veyron. Props to them on the quality of the gear but I will never use veyron again. The test had only a mild guaicol smell to it, and the pip wasn't too bad. The primo was a whole different story though. The pip was bad but I sort of expected that from Primo and I dont really mind the PIP all that much. It was the guaicol smell that will keep me from using it again. Maybe I just got a funky batch that had an abnormally high concentration of guaicol in it, but it was seriously awful. One little alcohol prep pad that I used after pinning that shit was enough to smell up an entire room. It took over my sinuses and taste when I pinned it. For the first 3-4 weeks I came close to puking everytime I pinned it. After week 4 or so I got used to it and it didn't bother me so much anymore. Either way, it was bad enough to keep me from using it again.
And as far the pip goes, it seems that many people experience pip with thier oils so maybe it's the guaicol that causes that? Again, the pain didn't get to me so much but my ass was so damn swollen that my girl was asking me if I was taking collagen injections in an attempt to look like Nicki Minaj, that's how big my ass got from the swelling. And that may account for about 5-10lbs of the weight gain LOL
Damn veyron! And bro I know its weird but I love the guaicol smell and
Taste it gives.
But damn I gotta give primo a try.
But happy to here your cycle went excellent!
Post some pics up.
That is not weird at all, it's SICK! haha! What's wrong with you bro?
Primo gets a bad name because people expect it to be like tren where you get so cut up, and put on so much muscle so quick that you got veins popping in places you didnt even know you had veins. It's not like that at all. What heppened with me is typical of it I am hearing. Assuming you run it with test, you will bulk up without retaining water and without your waist changing. Although it wasnt drastic, I noticed a more defined look around the edges that I wouldnt have had with test alone.
All this without side effects makes it worth every penny in my opinion. However it is expensive and the shots hurt like hell. But I suppose thats better than using tren or something like that and not sleeping, having nightmares when you do sleep, and sweating out 4 gallons of water every night. Keep me posted if you decide to give it a shot. Id love to hear how it goes for you.