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Possible EQ cycle

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Hello all, I've recently updated my stats, not a significant change from previously. I have completed one cycle, Test E @250 mg per week for ten weeks. Everything went well with the cycle, lost some body fat, and had a good increase in strength. I chose the lose dose for the first go around mainly because I was concerned about sides, and wanted to see how my body would react. Got bloods done a month after PCT, total test was slightly lower than it was before I started the cycle, but I felt good, and let's face it, at my age my total test probably isn't going to increase, so based on the numbers, I feel I recovered well. I'm planning on starting my second cycle this winter, going to do Test E again, this time @ 500 mg per week. I will say that my diet could have been better during the 1st cycle, so that is something I'm putting a lot of time into researching and building a good diet. On to my question.... I'm already researching my 3rd cycle, I'm wanting to add EQ to a Test E cycle. I have read a lot about the dangers, and positive effects of EQ, and was just wanting to hear other people's experiences as far as blood donation times, how much their BP elevated, along with hemocrit levels. And when in the cycle did these things become a problem? Now, I'm not dead set on running EQ, it's just something I have been kicking around in my head. I realize that EQ is recommended to run for 16 weeks minimum, and if some of the vets don't think it's appropriate for a third cycle, please tell me why. I'm still learning this game. All advice is welcome.

giardap's picture

WTF is going on lads... am I missing something, or what?! Why are people co-signing any cycle for this lad? This guy is not taking advice and hurting himself

OP; I read as far as:

I feel I recovered well

Well fella, if you haven't gotten back to where you were, you didn't recover, did you? Your bloods say no.
But guess what... your bloods were not good before you started your cycle and you did nothing about it.
In fact, you came on to eroids to post bloods 7 months ago (I commend that, of course), got a load of high 5's and only 1 person really called it as it is... your bloods were 'not ideal' before starting a cycle. And now, post cycle, you've not even recovered to the 'not ideal' levels you were at previously (this means you have possibly disrupted your HPGA or maybe done some damage)

Now you want to go again and at higher doses, and keep pushing natural test lower? You are 36 yo ffs man (you're a fkn young man not an OAP, STOP PRETENDING OTHERWISE TO GET THE AOK FROM PEOPLE), and you are literally documenting and witnessing yourself do damage to your body and want to push forward.

You were warned before your cycle about diet, and now admit you didnt do all that well.
You had bloods and were warned they were not great, and went ahead anyway
You have NOT recovered and are already planning another cycle for winter

So based on previous advice and history sure whats going to change there? Land of hope and dreams versus reality - take a moment to think about it properly

When you do, here's some real advice for you
1. Go get bloods at least 2 months after finishing pct, see where you're levels are at - they might be worse or better once the PCT meds clear your system
2. If test STILL isn't recovered to the already lower than average levels or hopefully better, then consider running a proper clomid therapy, but get a proper endo-savvy doc's advice

You need to smarten up pal

(full homo)

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Yeah hold up there fella. Maybe you want to start this one again. Put ALL the relevant info down (so factual stuff from the above and original post) including your actual goal and how you plan to eat and train to achieve it. The lay out why you think EQ will help you achieve that goal. We can go from there. Oh and read this - https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/so-you-want-cycl...

JARHEAD2's picture

Sorry Bro... y'all do things different & I'm learning!

giardap's picture

Boom.
Gonna quote you on this Rusty. Spot on man

Dacky's picture

^^^^^about says it all +2

giardap's picture

Did you have a gander at his pre-cycle bloods pic?
I was surprised to see so many high 5s, altho of course just putting them up is good.... but still!!!

Dacky's picture

Yeah it's a tough one. No doc is going to treat at those levels but yeah pretty low for that age. Running cycles sure won't help but again could be his normal. Would like to see him recover to at least his pre-cycle levels before considering another cycle.

JARHEAD2's picture

I agree with TrenPren on running no less than 16 weeks & I recommend also to donate blood before cycle & around 8 weeks in. You should purchase a blood pressure cuff & monitor your blood pressure daily. Every compound affects people different each cycle so safety can't be emphasized enough! I would definitely wait till your second cycle is over & see how recovery goes for you. Recovery is a little harder coming off a 16 week cycle. You have plenty of time.

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No problem my friend. Anything else you can think of just hit me up on pm

TrenPren's picture

Jesus not very often you get someone like you come on here probably the most responsible first cycle ive seen in a good while. +1 for the maturity x

In relation to your question.
It depends what your goal is EQ is a great less harmful compound than others
Personally i prefer to run bold cypionate when i can get my hands on it does great for 12 week cycle rather than that 16 week mark for bold undecylenate (personally i feel eq should be ran for 16 weeks to maximise results) Ive never gotten notable sides from eq but have never ran it over 600 mgs and for longer than 16 weeks. blood pressure did rise but nothing severe like deca or high test and hematocrite were elevated after 16 weeks on eq undec but 2 weeks after i donated blood and bp went down slightly but was in a good range to begin with (130 max on cycle) 125 post blood donation when i went for bloods 4 weeks post cycle hematocrit was well within a healthy range (around 47 % on cycle) 4 weeks post blood donation which was 6 weeks post cycle i was back down to in and around 40% so still in the normal range but was definetly elevated after cycle found with eq cyp blood pressure stayed around 125 the entire 12 week period never got a chance to check bloods after that cycle.. Thats how i got on with eq every 8 weeks is a good rule of thumb for dumping blood if your already in a healthy range you should be good thats my experience but it could be different for you.. id reccomend giving it a try for your 3rd cycle or else replace the eq with an oral for just for 4 weeks also if you can get yourself some bold cyp i like it better no keeping your test on an extra week or 2 after you drop the eq undec i feel you can run the bold cyp for 12 weeks and feel like its the 16 week mark hope this helps bro

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3+ cycle

TrenPren's picture

You've got a good mindset bro awesome to hear! once you keep on top of your bloods and keep your body in good health you can run gear safely! FACT! I think my would be 140+ if that was me in that situation lol you sound like your gtg best of luck with your future cycles hope you everything goes fucking 100 buddy!
Also what jarhead2 said above about buying a bp monitor is a must to me its as essential as having an ai on hand lol can pick one up for about $20+ if your arms are relatively big get the wrist cuff or an extra large arm cuff.. very good investment if your sitting around 130+bp imo