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First cycle of test ending and start pct this weekend.

Looking to just see how my body handles a pct and see if I can recover well.

Looking to hit a higher cycle after pct. How long should I wait after labs confirm back in range?

Labs again in 4 weeks of pct to confirm. If all good, how long after until I hit a blast?

Thanks

Tulane81's picture

I think you’re looking at recovery too much like a calendar.

Getting labs 4 weeks into PCT and seeing testosterone, LH and FSH “in range” does not necessarily mean you’ve recovered. You’re taking drugs specifically intended to stimulate that system, so the more meaningful question is whether those numbers remain normal after the testosterone has cleared, PCT is finished, the PCT drugs have cleared, and your body is maintaining normal hormone production on its own.

Then I’d want to see that recovery actually hold for a meaningful period rather than immediately suppressing the system again.

There also isn’t some scientifically established number like “8 weeks of PCT and then you’re ready for another cycle.” Recovery varies enormously depending on the compound, ester, dose, cycle length, previous exposure and the individual.

And testosterone isn’t the only thing I’d be looking at. Lipids, ApoB, hematocrit/hemoglobin, blood pressure, liver markers where relevant, fertility if that matters to you, and how you actually feel should have recovered too.

So personally I wouldn’t use “my labs were in range during PCT” as the green light for another, higher cycle. I’d want to demonstrate that my endocrine system can maintain normal function without pharmaceutical assistance first. Otherwise you can end up spending almost the entire year either suppressed, waiting for drugs to clear, or chemically stimulating recovery—and calling that “cycling off.”

Last injection → PCT → normal-looking bloodwork → another cycle is not necessarily equivalent to:

Last injection → drug clearance → genuine HPG-axis recovery → demonstrated stable natural production → period of recovered health → reconsider exposure.

You’re effectively asking, “What’s the shortest possible amount of recovery I can get away with?” IMO this is backwards from a health-risk standpoint.

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Miner49er's picture

I appreciate this sort of reply and comment besides the others questioning how I’ve managed sizes, while swinging D about their experiences.

Generally speaking the lipid panel, cbc and cmp is perfectly fine as of right now. Fructosimine was a little high and that’s most likely due to the growth hormone secretegagues. Uric acid was low too but I’ve also been at about 1.5-2 gallons of water a day on cycle.

All other markers came back normal or in optimal ranges besides my hormone panel e2, cortisol, free and total high but shbg is optimal. Realistically I want to start a bulk cycle beginning of November, 4 month bulk, then change compounds and work on cut cycle for 3-4 months then maintain to compete next summer.

I have thought of blasting and cruising but i put in a big order for my bulk cycle with Osgear and they’ve been dragging feet with their shipment and it’s been almost a month and they’re saying I have 3-4 more weeks until it arrived. Needless to say never ordering from them again. So I can’t just cruise right now when I had my last pin Friday.

If I pct now, I have two months bloodwork to see how everything goes. I really think this osgear delaying my shipment really kinda messed up my plans.

Cypher2377's picture

How long was your cycle, generally I cruise same length of time my cycle was. 16 week cycle, 16 week cruise/health phase. Even once your labs show good, you don’t need to jump right back into a cycle, let your body and organs fully recover,

Miner49er's picture

Given my first gear cycle outside of peptides I only ran test cyp 250 for 10 weeks and var 20mg the last 5 weeks. Basically wanted to see how my body would handle it.

Bloods this week should my estradiol is high but have been adjusting my ai along the way.

Total test sitting >1500 and free test 329
Estradiol 57.9 and shbg 38.7

Lipids, cmp and cbc are all optimal range or normal so no liver or kidney damage and heart is doing okay. Dialed in some high bp with Tadalafil and managing ai with Arimidex and caber for prolactin.

I feel I just need to dial in the ai a little more, just been scared to tank it so haven’t pushed the Arimidex too hard but no gyno, water retention is minimal and mood is stable.

Cypher2377's picture

Why you taking an ai when e2 is only 57? You encountering sides? And as SeeohShow said, you’ve only been on 10 weeks, I would stay on also. 10 weeks was a not a long cycle, in fact it’s too dam short to really see any really good benefits. Run it 16-20 weeks, stay on top of labs and get the most out of a cycle

Roastbeast86's picture

This right here. 250mgs with 57 e2 is fine. I run e2 high as possible before l grow tits. Get the most out of what your taking. 16 weeks min. Fk l would cruise on 250mgs test lol. You dont need all that shit on 250. I run 16 weeks on, 16 weeks off. Off is cold turkey to reset my body. Hcg hard m,w,f first week or two to get my nuts huge for natty test flowing.

Miner49er's picture

I started to run into some water retention and lethargic during the day and then my nipples got a little sensitive. I started 0.5 Arimidex once a week. Was fine for a bit, bloating went away and nipple sensitivity went away. Still kinda tired but until about 2 weeks ago my nipple turned white and a little puffy so I grabbed some caber 0.25 twice a week since. Puffiness went away and nipple discoloration cleared. Pulled my labs this week from rythm and got those scores. Need to pull prolactin. (Pinning IGF-1 LR3 and Hexarelin - 1 month on - 1 month off cycles)

E2/total test ration is still 25:1 so I know it’s not bad, just don’t want to run into gyno or any other sides.

Want to push a 4 month blast next with test/eq/dbol/whinny so just wanted to see my baseline return before that

Jrb97's picture

Caber??? Dbol and winstrol???

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Miner49er's picture

Caber for prolactin. Dbol to pre load while eq peaks first 4-6 weeks, windy last 4-6 weeks of the cycle to trim up. Yes.

Jrb97's picture

Pretty gnarly to be throwing caber at something blindly for an issue that could be solved by something that wouldn’t give you a cascade of other issues. If I understand, you haven’t checked prolactin and you’re taking caber for high e2 sides lol

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Miner49er's picture

As I stated, my nipples turned white, like milky white and got puffy. That’s not e2, that’s prolactin. And I only started taking caber once this happened and that’s after low dose ai.

TeaBody's picture

what compound are you using that raises prolactin?

Miner49er's picture

As I stated, pushing IGF-1 and Hexarelin heavy cycles. Hexarelin is well known to cause high prolactin and cortisol spikes

Jrb97's picture

Go get em

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SeeOhShow's picture

Might as well just stay on if you’re already chomping at the bit to get back on. Otherwise the proper answer is one cycle per year, pct, then natty for the remaining time of that rolling year.