posted Sat, 01/14/2012 - 20:33
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Into first cycle, now planning second cycle.
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First cycle 12 weeks 600mg test e, with the usual ai and pct.
Second cycle 600mg test e 12 weeks and 300 mg deca 10 weeks with again usual ai and pct.
Question do I add Dbol to this cycle or do I do something different with the test cycle?
Also I am guessing I should be waiting 18 weeks between cycles?
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AnonThe test is starting to kick in, and I feel superhuman. Every time I pick up a weight I blow right through my previous max.
Overall very happy with how things are progressing, the only side that I have so far is a little acne, balls have shrunk, and libido is through the roof.
I'm starting this exact cycle in a couple weeks. How do ya feel?
AnonOk let's say by the end of my current cycle I lovin EOD pins, what would a cycle look like?
Prop 100mg eod wk 1-4 and 12-16
Test e 500 mg week 1-12
Seeing as I am doing 600mg a week on my first cycle should I stay with that level or go less with this setup?
AnonI was looking at TBol also as an option and liked the idea of less water weight, is Prop easier to pin than Enanthate?
AnonAfter doing much research into Deca I don't think I wan't to mess with that stuff, sounds like if it goes bad it can really really go bad.
I am thinking I will just stick with test cycles and possibly add a kick start and taper to the cycle for round two. I am not big on the pinning and twice per week is plenty for me, so prop is gonna be out right now. What would be a better option or just do Dbol, seems like Dbol is sort of waste as you loose all of it?
Thoughts or options?
AnonI odviously have never stacked before, so how would I load that in pins? Combine 250 test and 150 deca together in one pin, and do that twice per week? What is the draw procedure you would use to load this?
if the test is 250 mg/ml and deca is 150 mg/ml than you should swab the vials and pull back the plunger on the syringe to 2 cc's. Inject 1 cc of air into the test vial pull back the plunger to 2cc's. You should have 1cc of test and 1 cc of air in the vial. Now inject 1cc of air into the deca vial and pull the plunger back to 2 cc's. You should now have 1 cc of test and 1 cc of deca. Change the needle and get to pinning.
AnonTime ON = Time OFF
ill repost my advice.
Run Test E @ 500 for 14 weeks.
Deca @300 for 12 weeks
only running deca for 10 weeks is going to leave you disappointed to say the least.. Keep an AI on hand.. you shouldn't have any issue with prolactin build up since you're using test
Standard 2 weeks following last shot PCT:
Nolvadex:40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/10
time on+PCT=time off
AnonI was considering PCT in my "Time ON" ;)
So here the deal bro, its great that you are doing the research for your next cycle but dont go buying any of this gear....While your on cycle you kinda feel like a mini superman and probably feel like your body is gonna recover just fine, but that isnt always the case. You NEED to see how well you recover before even thinking about running deca, peroid! cause if it turns out that after PCT life sucks then deca would be your worst enemy hands down. Research deca and HTPA shut down and what that means for you at the end of the cycle. Then when you are ready for your next one you can be the judge as to weather or not you can handle it.
AnonK will do, I have heard Deca has a totally different set of sides than test.
are you saying you ran 2 cycles or this is your second cycle?
AnonI am in early phases of cycle 1, and starting to plan cycle 2.
I wan't to do everything correct from the start, and make sure I get all my gear well before hand.
yeah I just seen the title im a dumbass!
You could do a dbol kickstart, or adrol. But recommended is prop, thats what I like. Too much BS with orals like those dnt get me wrong I love em but u lose 85% after u stop takin em cuz its mostly water. Prop is fun I love prop can never have enough, but if u dont like pinning EOD or ED then stick with orals (dbol/adrol) for your kickstart. Run the test @ 600 if its 300mg/ml and deca at 250 ... Trust me u will grow how u want to if ur going with a trusted source and the deca and test are legit, just make sure your doing at LEAST 1.5 times more test per mg than you are deca and that will diminish deca sides.
AnonI have not gotten totally used to pinning yet, I don't do it myself yet either which is total puss I know. I am using Medistar (trusted source) I have Veyron test and deca for my second cycle (again trusted source) and I also have some test from big D on hand just incase.
I have a stock of arimidex, nolva, clomid as per the usually ai and pct regiment.
AnonRun Test E @ 500 for 14 weeks.
Deca @300 for 12 weeks
only running deca for 10 weeks is going to leave you disappointed to say the least.. Keep an AI on hand.. you shouldn't have any issue with prolactin build up since you're using test
Standard 2 weeks following last shot PCT:
Nolvadex:40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/10
do test p with test e week 1 - 4 an stop test p on week 4
AnonWhat do you recommend for dosages on this?
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test and deca ratio seems alright. dont add too many compounds. slow and steady wins the race. do your research. these boards have a ton info. do u have caber or prami for deca sides?
AnonI am not sure what caber or prami is?
im pretty sure you need to switch up either your test or deca dosage. iv always heard that its best ran in a 3 test per 1 deca ratio. also i would think you would want to run your deca for atleast 12 weeks with the test since deca is very slow but steady gains.
Im still new to this game too but with my research, ppl say to try 1 new coumpound at a time so test and deca for the second cycle should be ok at those doses to avoid deca dick . Dbol too??? Im on a test e cycle now and I know how bad it sucks to wait 4 weeks for test to kick in. 18 weeks is rite, time on + pct = time off so your good.
AnonI am in the 4 week waiting for the test to kick in phase, it really messes with your mind.
sure does. You could run prop as a kickstart the first 4 weeks instead of dbol.