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Best things for deep, uninterrupted sleep?

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Before I even ran my first cycle earlier this year (test and primo) my sleep started to get noticeably worse than it used to be. I can fall asleep, just wake up a lot. I’ve tried all the obvious things like no caffeine within 6 hours of bedtime, melatonin, magnesium gly, etc.
I recently started Hgh at 4 iu’s (split between morning and night injections) and it maybe has helped a littlee but still wake up at least a couple times a night.
Any suggestions, ideas for better sleep would be appreciated!

pricese27's picture

DSIP is doing the trick for me. I only use it a few time a week but when I do it is magical!

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Steeltoad777's picture

Are you making it a point to take a leak before bed? I wake up alot. At least once to take a leak.

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chasehammond27's picture

Oh yeah I gotta go like right before I fall asleep

shredski's picture

Vigorous masterbation

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sandman3698's picture

Take a handful of Tylenol pm and start furiously jerking off to see if you can cum before you pass out, beautiful things is, either way you win.

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Cypher2377's picture

Ive always had sleep issues, either falling asleep, or staying asleep. I was on ambien for years; I couldn't fall asleep without it, I no longer need that now. For me, what has helped the most is def no caffeine a few hours before bed, I run 5 IU GH pm, and I now use DSIP; it's a peptide and has made a world of difference in my sleep,

Steeltoad777's picture

I was just gonna say... Ambien... i dont recommend anyone start taking it bc i can definitely see how it can be habit forming, but nothing has worked as well as ambien for me. The best part is I never felt groggy waking up. It never gave me any type of sluggish feeling waking up.

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chasehammond27's picture

I’ve tried dsip myself and it honestly hasn’t done shit for me. Dunno if the quality was just bunk but it didn’t work for me. I don’t sleep like absolutely terribly just would like to stop waking up through the night

Cypher2377's picture

I’ve heard the same from others, just goes to show u that not everyone responds the same. Hope u get
It figured out, I know sleep issues suck balls man, I’ve been dealing with them since 09, an just now getting things working better

TeaBody's picture

People think DSIP is supposed to help you fall asleep, that's not what it does... it increases your 'deep sleep', so if you cannot achieve 'deep sleep' then DSIP is worthless.

DSIP is amazing if you can fall asleep, it will help you sleep longer without waking up and can get you 3-4 hours of deep sleep.

Pinealeon, on the other hand, increases your REM sleep.

Epithalon helps with deep sleep, REM, and resetting your circadian rhythm

Steeltoad777's picture

In gonna look into experimenting with these. Thanks. I could use an edge for bed.

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Cypher2377's picture

You’ve been talking a lot about those 2 compounds, I need to give em a try, def sounds promising

TeaBody's picture

If you use peps, research a epithelon and pinelaon cycles. Ive tried all sorts of over-the-counter drugs and prescriptions, but epithaelon worked the best.

GH has helped immensely as well.

chasehammond27's picture

How long was it before GH started helping you? I started 4 iu’s 2 weeks ago and don’t really notice much difference

TeaBody's picture

It was pretty instantaneous. The higher the iu, the better I slept.

Steeltoad777's picture

Yeah I notice it that day/night. It can make me sleepy, thats why ive switched to taking it at night. Id find myself in a deep nap after lunch, dosing in the am.

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locknid's picture

I am in the same boat, but with me it's falling asleep. Once I am asleep I am fine, but it could take me 2-3 hours to fall asleep sometimes. I have tried everything supplement wise that has been mentioned here and nothing helps. About the only thing that does work are Xanax, but I keep that to like 1 night a week because I don't want to build up a tolerance. I take like 0.5mg

WinstonBud's picture

A prostate that isn’t older than 35?

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chasehammond27's picture

Well that counts me out

steroidmen's picture

5 HTP

Santan3's picture

I feel your pain. Exactly the same here. Never slept so badly in my life. I think hgh got things even worse cuz now i have numbness in my arms that wakes me up too. Everything add to a breathing issue that I have always had and the result is that I cant sleep for more than 2 hours continuously. I’ve tried pt141 and really worked for 1 single day only. Melatonin does not make difference at all. I wish I could sleep like back in my teenage years. Hope that when I start cruising things get a little better.

Milfpounder's picture

This dick

LieutenantDan's picture

I also have trouble sleeping just throwing that out there

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kekerino's picture

Check out the forum post "The most underrated anabolic? Deep sleep + recovery stack inside" by @Pandateston. Life changing

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Justsomedude's picture

Brother I’ve seen you mention this thread a bunch. Do you have a link because I am too retarded to find it using the search function apparently.

Justsomedude's picture

Thank you bro!!

chasehammond27's picture

After seeing that post I got some of the l-theanine, 5-htp, and glycine to take with my magnesium, took last night for the first time and I only woke up once briefly so I’d say it’s worth trying!

StableLevels's picture

Get some real blue light blocking glasses (tinted red). no high temp lights (the brighter the worse). No overhead lighting, it signals sunlight/ daytime to your brain. Basically you want your house to be like a cool dark cave at night with some low to the ground, dimly lit, warm color lighting. and of course no tv or phone.

Jockstrap's picture

No internet at least 2hrs before bed

Hops valerian root combo. No groggyness

LieutenantDan's picture

Trazadone or doxepin

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Khandum's picture

Try adding in 400mg L-Theanine, 25mg Unisom, and 3000mg Glycine to the sleep stack you already have going. Try to also keep your sleep environment more on the cool side, and one more thing that has helped me a lot. Try getting down 20-25 grams of carbs an hour before bed, a bit of carbs can help relax you for the night.

chasehammond27's picture

I can try that. Yeah I definitely like to sleep in the cold so that’s no problem. Winter coming will help that even more cuz I can keep the room cold as fuck. And the carbs I’m tryin to stay away from 2 hours before bed cuz I take my Hgh at night and they say it’s best to not have carbs for a couple hours before taking it but idk how much that actually matters.

anton_dev's picture

Magnesium made a significant difference for me. I take some 30 mins before I lay down. Also set my phone to black/white or just limit phone use an hour or so before

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chasehammond27's picture

Yeah blue light/screen time limiting is something I admittedly not very good at. I usually am watching tv or scrolling on the phone before bed which I know isn’t good for sleep so probably should try knocking that off.

awl1991's picture

a good wank

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chasehammond27's picture

lol if that helped I’d be beating that shit like it owes me money

Scrawny-to-not's picture

Alone or with a friend?

BigCoachKen's picture

Could be apnea. You stop breathing, your body wakes you up. Does someone sleep with you? Wife, boyfriend, etc.?

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chasehammond27's picture

I wondered that myself but I don’t fit any of the tell tale signs of apnea. And yes my woman does. That could be part of it cuz she grinds her teeth crazy loud but we’ve been together 12 years and she’s always tossed and turned and ground her teeth and before earlier this year when it started I still slept a rock.

BigCoachKen's picture

Set up a camera when you sleep LOL. Maybe youll see her kicking you every time you wake up.

Youre already taking the basic supps. If you want something a bit stronger try Somatomax. Its made by Hi-Tech, hitechpharma.c o m

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Pumped_'s picture

Haha. Sometimes when i just wake out the blue im thinking the wife is fake sleeping and just wacked me for snoring or something. Im staring at her, waiting for her to move so i can catch her but she is good!

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BigCoachKen's picture

LMAO, relatable!

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chasehammond27's picture

It’s possible haha but I’ll try that somatomax. I tried the dsip peptide and didn’t think it did shit really