I need advice on a cycle
Ok I'm not gonna bullshit, I am about to run my third cycle. My first two I had no clue on what to do I just listened to a friend that was huge and I thought he knew his shit untill I seen this. Ok so my first cycle was just Dbol for 8 weeks I gained only 12 pounds because I wasn't eating as much as I should have but I kept every pound, I ran no pct or AI with that. Second cycle was Dbol 8 weeks, Deca 250ml/week 10 weeks and the first 7 weeks of that it was only Dbol and deca then I found out you need to run test with deca so I started at 300ml/week. So first 7 weeks Dbol 20mg ED, Deca 250 a week. Week 8 was deca 250ml/week and test e 300ml/week. I finished my deca and continued test e for 5 more weeks at 300ml/week. My cycle consisted of
Week 1-8: Dbol 20mg ED
Week 1-8: Deca 250ml a week
Week 8-15: Test E 300ml a week
I ran a AI of letro for 1.25 EOD and I used it as a PCT I gained another 12 solid pounds that I've kept off of that cycle also. Now I'm about to run another cycle keep in mind its been 8-9 months since my last cycle. So I have Dbol again gettin Test E and Deca again bit this time I'm gonna fuckin eat!!!!!! And actually try a diet so if you guys could give me tips on how to run it how many mg/ml I should run and what kind of AI and PCT you think is best and Also if I should add or just leave alone witch gear. Please give me some advice man I'm still very new to the game and I am terrified of ruining my body so anyone with great advice help me!!! And thank you all very much I know this was a long post but I wanted to be as detailo as needed.
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You can justify your usage at your age bro but it a proven and well known fact that gear at your age will most likely cause irreversible damage to your body.
You need to think about this...read some more and do the right thing, gear will always be there for you in a few years when it is safer for you to use bro.
no juice at your age mate, my advice- go to the dr- get results and post here- no one should be giving you advice on next cycle at age 20, sorry.
BillLumberghshit man.. dbol only at 18. these are the kinds of things that give roids a bad public image lol. not that I give a fuck. but yeah at your age i'd wait and get bloods checked out.
also what is your lifting split? most people hammer diet, I'm of a small minority that thinks training is equally important.
My Training
Monday: Back and Bi
Tuesday:Shoulder
Wednesday: Chest and Tri
Thursday: Back and Legs
Friday: Shoulder and Bi
Saturday: Chest and Tri
Sunday: LEGS!!!!
BillLumberghAre your weights going up on that program?
A majority of noob lifters spend way to much time on isolations, and do the same shit every week without much progress. not saying thats you though. be doing compound movements, and focus your time on the big 3. Squat bench deadlift. Nothing tacks on mass better.
I don't have a set mind set on how many reps and sets. I just do what feels best for my body each time I workout, lately o shortened my rest period and doing a little higher but more controlled reps. My weight hasn't changed but in the mirror my body shape is just taking on the form that I desire and people are telling me I'm looking bigger but my body weight has not changed a pound. Everything is growing not for size but for shape overall I see almost everything coming to proportion finally. I dont deadlift, never had the desire too but I am about to add it to my workout soon
You're bodybuilding and u don't deadlift. For shame!!! Did it ever occur to you how much more u could squat if you built a decent deadlift? No pansy ass weights either. U should be looking at 495 for reps as an intermediate term goal (with straps - we're not power lifting here). If u tell me u are already squatting 495 for reps with no deadlift, I will just have to retire. BTW, I was able to do both those things NATTY. So, when I started in on the roids, I got really strong.
I finally did deadlifts homie, made sure my form was correct and start adding weight. I did 135 x 15 easy so 185x15 easy 225x12 easy 275x10 difficult haha so I then did 315 only 2 and then I dropset 225x10 135x15. I had the best pump in my back man haha ill definitely do them more often but how often a week you recommend?
I have a friend that deadlifts and squats he has dead lifted 500 for reps but he only squated 405x5 he also weighed 30 more pounds then me but I could still hang with his ass in squating. And don't worry my friends deadlifts will be worked into my routine and I will put updates on that shit so you all can see if they truely work or not give me a few months and ill post updates
BillLumberghYou're a beast man with those standards. I've done 1 rep of 500 raw and I've been at it awhile. (no aas Yet). With this guys stats 315 for reps would probably do wonders. I bet he's not squating consistently. If you do the same lifts with the same weights every week your body will not change.(Unless you are eating a caloric surplus, but you'll likely just get fatter if training sucks)Arnold started as a power lifter lifting 3 days a week training the compounds.
Damn man did you just doubt me about squating? I do squats twice a week and I don't do heavy ass weight ok I start 2 sets 135 for warm ups of 15 - 25 reps. Then I go to 225 2 sets 12 reps and then 275 2 sets 8 reps and then ill do 2 sets of front squats ether 135 or 185. My max squat I've never just tried the most weight I possibly could of the bat I worked my way up from 135 to 395x4. Look at my pictures I just posted with a little leg action in them!
BillLumberghmy fault for assuming too much. good on you.
Its perfectly fine brotha you just motivated me
BillLumberghHell yeah man. I thrive on people telling me I can't do something. I love handing them a big fuck off with my success.
That said, most of the advice you'll get on eroids will be pretty sound.
Exactly bro best feeling when you put someone in there place! Ha
U gotta get that weight up to make the legs grow. Change it up a bit - u are doing the "classic" bodybuilding sets/reps and are pre-exhausting yourself and cheating yourself out of adding weight. Try something like 135 x 6-8, 225 x 4, 315 x 4 - then on your drop sets you can do the reps - 275 x 12 x 10, 225 x 15 x 12. That 315 set is what you want to keep your eyeballs on and strive to increase to bring up the whole squat.
Ya I do the basic shit but its been working for me still trying new things though. I wanna drop sets but I do legs by myself brotha so I'm worries about my legs not holding up against that. I will give it a try but ill drop from 195 instead so I can do a set throw tens off, do a set, throw tens off and then do as many as I can on 135. I appreciate the tips brotha I'm always willing to do things people advice me to try
At 20, your natty test is probably amazing.
First you should get bloods to make sure you haven't fucked up your endocrine system yet and then sort out your diet.
If your test levels are fine I dare you to clean up your diet and training and see huge natty gains.
You just had to fuckin dare me!!! Ok bro ima get the blood test post it on here, get a diet down and see what happens!
Regardless of your age our stats, do a shit ton of research before you put anything in your body. Don't rely on tools at the gym, or nerds on a forum. That's the best advice one can give. Now here's my opinions, don't just trust me tho, research them ok.
Your 1st cycle should be test only. Should be a low dosage as well.
Every cycle after add only one new compound as a general rule of thumb.
If a short ester is offered, these are best to try out first as they're in your system the least amount of time.
Orals should be used only in 4-5 week durations at the most due to stress on your liver.
Always have an AI on hand. Gyno or estrogen symptoms are terrible & the best way to kill a cycle.
Diet should always change depending on type of cycle, ie bulk = up the food, cut = decrease the food etc..
Always run a proper PCT
Lastly, running D's gear is the best decision you've made yet. Stick with him.
Happy Juicing!
I'm always on Google looking everything I possibly can to avoid any negative side effects or to ruin my body so far nothing bad has really happened. I try to run low dosage I don't believe in doing stupidly high amounts of any gear I think the less the better control you have and the less damage you will do to your body. I do all the research I possibly can and ask around people advice can be great or terrible
Sounds like u should do more research. From what u initially said your first cycles were not only crap, but kinda dangerous. U can really fuck your body up on this shit man, that's all I'm trying to say.
Looks like you're trying to bulk, here's the cycling I'm currently running. It's a tried & true 12 week bulking staple:
Weeks 1-12
Test E 600mg/wk (300mg Mon, 300mg Thur)
Deca 400mg/wk (200mg Mon, 200mg Thur)
Arimidex 1/2ml/day (adjust if needed)
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50mg (1 hour PWO)
No PCT as I'm on TRT (Will go back to 200mg Test C weekly.
Since those cycles I've done research for months and months man trying to dial down what I feel will work great for me. Still looking for tips on what else I should run and Ya I'm trying to bulk up bro tryna get in that 200lb family haha but for your 50 mg Dbol do you take it all at once or threw out the day?
I take all 50 mg dbol 30-45 min before I work out. Seems to work best that way. Anymore ppl just mainly use the dbol to kickstart a cycle because it works instantly while your long ester compounds (test e, deca, etc) will take a couple weeks to start fully working. It's like instant power.
Ya I spread mine out I'm about to take 40mg a day for weeks on this cycle. I'm thinking one in the morning 2 before my workout and 1 afternoon. There 10mg by BP
how old are you?
your profile leaves out age, and it says your 5 6' 176 is that still correct?
what is the current diet you are on now?
Age:20
Weight&Height: Same
Diet: None at the moment I just eat around 4 meals a day with 2 or 3 weight gainer protein shakes around 6-700 calories. My job I can't eat so I drink shakes. But once I start taking this I will do my best to follow a diet
I meant deca
Week 1-10