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Hey give your 2 cents on a lean mass cycle Brahs !

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So I have been challenged a friendly gentalmens challenge to gain 20lbs of solid muscle in 8 months and Im guessing stay as lean as I am now ! So the point is any nice cycles y'all want to throw out ! By the way I'm not new to tren I've ran it and at high dosage and with other compounds and also for long run too!!! I'm 5'10-5'11"I weigh 180 the other day super dry my body fat is 13-15% if I had to guess and I've ran at least 6 or more cycles per say but really more like long extended cycles lol that's me I'm not saying do that so don't trip ! Point is I don't want to argue or shit just have good fun Convo about good cycles even super cycles I ain't worried about using multiple compounds and at high dosages as long as not upserd ! No hgh I ain't got money like that lol

iRizer's picture

My favorite cycle of all time:
250 mg test/week
400mg Primo/week
10mg Superdrol 4wks on 6 off..
Ghrp

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

32wk blast.. Hmmm... at your light weight now this will give way more than 20 solid pounds IF you eat properly (boring to keep hearing but true)... alright here we go.....

1-32 test @ 750mg wk
1-32 tren e 750mg wk
1-32 EQ @ 1000mg wk
1-4 tren a @ 100mg eod
28-32 prop @ 100 mg eod to drop back into cruise mode.
1-32 cycle drol 2wks on 2wks off @100mg ed
1-32 mast e @300mg wk.... if youve got the money?... this will help with hardness and also back up your Ai.

On this length of run i would say defo run caber..... so its gonna get very expensive bro, but after a run like this you probably wont recognise yourself when you look in the mirror... i would be aiming for 5000 cals ed ..not too worried about macro breakdown due to massive amount of tren thats involved here.... check yourself in the final six weeks to fine tune diet for ultimate cuts and hardness.

This is a Big Boy cycle so you must be fkn switched on with protocol,training times and eating or its just a fkn toilet filler.... no slouching ..train and eat like a beast you will become a beast... lesson over Smile

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Copy and save that run bro... i have that many others in my head for other people if we need to check back i,ll prob forget what i told ya ok Smile

Roid Noid's picture

fuck bro i remember back when i was 16 carrying arnolds encyclopedia of bodybuilding with me to the gym and reading that shit between sets, wishing I could ask questions and just reading the litature 10 fugging times to find the answer! now days we got guys like Vike that just dump a shit ton on our shoulders and say "Copy Paste that shit boy!" So much has changed there is NO excuse not to succeed!

Roid Noid's picture

this cycle he laid out is alot like the cycle I just started http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/started-a-cycle-today except I replaced the test with primo

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Nice run bro... balancing the pinning protocol is a bitch with all that primo oil..... i wish they could make a 250mg/ml lol... that would make life a lot simpler lol

j223's picture

test/dbol should be able to get you to 210 lbs easily then add in tren and get to 225ish

j223's picture

Not at all man water does not equal fat besides you want to gain 20lbs of MUSCLE why not use the most anabolic oral steroid known to man - dianabol !! the increased glycogen, igf production, nitrogen retention and a little water is a good thing! take some adex to drop water weight and proviron too for more free test.

High dose test like 750-1g will pack on mass with the dbol take like 350g protein/800g carbs/150g fats. Protein comes from meat shakes don't count towards your numbers.

Once you get up to 200-210 you will probly get stuck there for a while once the dbol is gone that weight will stick. That's when you add in tren, personally I'd use 750 test/750 tren E keep it 1:1 because the higher the test is the bigger you will be no doubt about it. Use low dose caber 0.5mg every 4-5 days just enough to keep prolactin in range but not enough to completely destroy it as caber will decrease appetite.

The tren should be enough to push you past 220 and it will be dry hard lean muscle. Once you are at 220 that should be your goal of 20lbs muscle. So even if you drop to 210-215 after cycle you will still have met your 20 lbs goal.

j223's picture

Well a 20lb gain does not mean 20lbs of muscle. Keep in mind lbm = bone mass, joint tissue/cartilage, muscle and WATER. You might gain a lb of fat as well but yes there will be muscle added.

But you will need to get to 210-215 if you wanted a total of 20lbs of muscle plus once you go off cycle you might drop some weight. If you get to 220, even if you go all the way down to 210 you will still be at your goal. Yes 205-210 should be close to 16.5

Doss's picture

Are you wanting to run an 8 month blast? Or a series of cycles during that time frame?

Doss's picture

You could do a long blast if you're up to it. If so, and it were me, I'd wait time it to end just before or right after the end of the 8 months. Just know that you're looking at a longer recovery time with that, unless you're blasting/cruising.

Or, you could do short 8 week blasts, and be able to tweak that body composition a bit each time.

I'm not a fan of high test for a goal like this. The more compounds you have in the system at once, the more competition for receptors. As receptors become occupied, the excess becomes more susceptible for binding with SHBG and/or enzymes. With that being said, I personally like a lower dose of test (200-300/week). This allows for less competition, less binding, higher percentage of free test, while allowing the other compounds in the stack to become more active at the receptors. Also makes e2 control much easier and a lot less water bloating.

Eq, var, and mast may make for some shitty side effects. Multiple dht's not only thins the hairline but also causes inflammation of the prostate. A long blast like this increases the amount of time the prostate is affected, so the side effects there progress. Best case scenario there, and you'll only be dealing with waking throughout the night to pee like and old man.

I can def offer some suggestions that you may like, but we'll have to do that in PM. Don't need the wrong folks reading and trying an advanced cycle like these.

cry_havoc's picture

I agree totally! I am interested in your cycle theory on this topic how about sending me a pm too brother?

Doss's picture

Right on. That makes it easier to do for you.

youngtricep98's picture

Test, deca and EQ.

Test 750mg 1-20
EQ 600-750mg 1-16
Deca 300-400mg 1-12

Nice extended cycle with a bulk aspect for 12 weeks and solidify the last 8

TheFlash85's picture

this is a beast cycle!!! im doing test e @ 1200 deca @ 600 and eq @ 600 I used dbol for 4 weeks as a kickstart, Ive gained 12kgs in ten weeks so far!!!! love it!!!!! im taking in 6000 calories not all clean as its a bulker but the eq is keeping the gains lean and dry!!

Doss's picture

That's a lot of test for a lean mass cycle... Between that and the deca, you're gonna have some good water weight. With an 8 month goal, body weight and composition will fluctuate

youngtricep98's picture

Some mega doses brotha! Haha I haven't reached there yet.

You could totally substitute deca with Tren. I run deca with eq because the collagen synthesis goes up like 400% so strength and tendon integrity are increased. But with high doses of eq it would get the same effect as the doses I stated above.

Plus if your a fan of var then 100mg/day would be even better and a solid finisher to boot.

TED's picture

if i were you id run two 8 week cycles. one right at the start then pct and take 3 months off. then start the other and the 8 months would be up right as you entered the pct for the second. now another thing to think is do you go big and bulk up dirty in the first and bring it back in the second or two lean bulks? really your preference

TED's picture

yea so youre better off doing 2 lean bulk cycles or doing one long 20 weeker the last 5 months of your bet