HCG Protocol
So I just started my 2nd cycle. It consists of:
Anastrozole Weeks 1-14 @ .5mg/day
DBol Weeks 1-4 @ 40mg/day
Test E Weeks 1-10 @ 500mg/week
Tren E Weeks 1-10 @ 300mg/week
PCT will start on Week 13:
Clomid - 150/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20/10/10
Now my question is that I also have one amp (5000iu) of HCG. I'm just curious as to the correct protocol to take HCG and when during my cycle I should take it. I've heard several different opinions; take it during cycle, take it during PCT, take it in small doses, take it in one shot, etc.
It came as 2 amps. One with powder (5000iu HCG) and one with water (1cc). So if in fact I do have to take it in small doses how is that possible? Take 1/4 of a cc? If anyone can tell me the most effective way to take it to restore natural test levels I would much appreciate it.
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keep it simple 250 iu monday and thursday. you can always bump it to 500iu if your balls shrink
BigSweazThank you gentlemen, its much appreciated.
As negaburn suggested, you can run it at 250 or 500 twice a week. That generally works for most peiple, too. Everyone reacts a little differently to different protocols so you will just have to feel it out and see what works best for you. Some will also argue that you can run it through your whole cycle without taking a 2 week as I suggested. However this is some evidence that running it for too long without a break will cause further suppression of your natural test. There is also some evidence that higher doses at one time will cause greater spikes in your estrogen levels, and higher doses will further desensitize your balls to the signal they receive to produce more test. Thats why I suggested 100iu per day and possibly a 2 week every break every 3-4 weeks. I'll send you a couple links to some articles that support this protocol.
I'd be interested in these articles, too. Thanks.
http://www.steroidworld.com/forums/post-cycle-therapy/9123-hcg-during-cy...
The best evidence I have seen supports that HCG is best used during cycle and not during pct. You should use it on cycle and stop before you start pct. 100iu every day for 3-4 weeks and then 2 weeks off, 3-4 weeks and then 2 weeks off. You need more than 1cc of water for 5000 iu HCG. Best way to do it is 1cc (1000iu) of water per 1000iu powder. If you 5000iu HCG powder you should use 5cc (5000iu) water for reconstitution. Take 100iu per day. If you have a 1cc slin pin, 100iu is the 10 mark on the pin. I was on TRT and this is a very similar protocol that my doctor had me on. Hope this helps.
hI i BELIEVE i HAVE DONE THE SAME RESEARCH BUT IN REAL TIME i DONT SEE ANY GUYS S;YING THEY ARE USING IT , ALOT OF WRITING ABOUT IT BUT NOT MAY USING , i THINK IT IS UN CHARTED WATER FOR AMATURE LIFTERS AND ONLY LEFT FOR THE PROS
There may be some truth to that but there is enough evidence out there supporting the benefits of using it during a cycle that I feel it's worth trying out. Everyone is different and reacts differently to it. My doctor had me on it and I can tell you that it worked wonders for me while running a test cycle. Within a couple hours after taking it my balls were huge and I was extremely horny. I do believe it elevated my estrogen levels though.
However, a cycle that I did while using test and Winny was a different story. Winny shuts you down hard and with the test on top, the HCG stopped working for me. I wasn't educated or experienced enough with it at the time to know whether I should increase the dosage, increas the frequency, etc so I just said F it and stopped using it.
From my experience with it, there is no realy way to tell if it is working for you and how to adjust as needed other than judging by the size of your balls as you continue it. It is possible that after taking it for so many weeks on my test/winny cycle that it was starting to suppress me. Not sure but that's one possible theory I guess. That's why I also put some serious thought into the importance of cycling it within your cycle.
For me personally, it is easier to recover when I keep keep my balls big and natty Test going through the cycle. When I quit using it that time on cycle my PCT was rough and I will never go that route again.
Hi this was an intereasting post, i was glad to hear your first cycle was under the eye of an md, if you dont mind me saying what was your test dosage , and what was the docs recomended dosage ?
Dosgae was 200mg wk of cyp which I followed for the first cycle. Felt pretty good, body composition changed a little bit.
BigSweazGlad i could be of some help. "Attention everyone who wants a perfect example of what not to do, just look at me"
tread-mDbol, test and tren second cycle? This is a percfect example of "how not to do it".