Got lots of questions- any advice?
Hi there, I got a recommendation for my second cycle and my friends first cycle, and wanted to get some feedback. I'm trying to put together a cycle for my buddy and a second cycle for myself, which I did in April and put on 15 solid pounds. (It was a 12 week deca/test e cycle with a t-bol kick starer, and anastrazole for PCT)
My Friend's First Cycle:
GOAL: Lean Mass Gains
Male, Age: 46, been lifting for 5 years, 5'11, 240 lbs, 23% bf
Trains 5 days a week, split cycle, got meals down 6 times a day.
Week 1-12 test e 500mg
Week 1-4 tbol 40mg
Week 8-14 Anavar 50mg (optional)
Week 1-14 Adex 0.5mg eod
Week 3-14 500iu hcg
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My Cycle (Second One)
GOAL: Lean Mass Gains
Me: Male, Age 40, been lifting for 10 years, 5'10, 190 lbs, 18% bf
Trains 5 days a week, split cycle, got meals down 6 times a day.
Week 1-12 test e 600mg Week 1-10 tren e 300mg Week 1-4 tbol • 40mg / per day Week 8-14 Anavar 50mg Week 1-14 Adex 0.5mg eod Week 3-14 Caber 0.25mg e3d Week 3-14 500iu hcg
• Since the HCG comes in ampules, I'll be needing to buy filer needles to make sure no glass goes in.
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SOURCES:
Thinking of buying from http://www.ukbeststeroids.com
and my HCG from https://www.alldaychemist.com
never bought before, but they come well recommended.
Also considering: http://www.steroidmania.com
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QUESTIONS:
• Is 14 weeks too long? My first one was 12 weeks and seemed better.
• Anything you'd recommend for PCT *Post Cycle Therapy like Milk Thistle?
• When someone means, Week 1-12 test e 600mg" does it mean taking 300mg twice a week or just shooting up 600mg at once?
What would that entail from a product like this:
http://www.ukbeststeroids.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53
So I would pull out 0.3mL with my needle?
• With regard to using ampules, I would assume I'd get ten, 500iu injections from a 5000iu ampule?
https://www.alldaychemist.com/1278-highly-purified-hcg-5000-iu.html
Whats the best way to store an open ampule?
• "Having Adex on hand" means start taking if it you feel tingling in your nips, other unwanted side effects?
• Regarding Growth Hormones cjc1295 and ghrp6, what do you recommend of that? What about using one or the other?
Thanks so much!
Diet:
I'm always eating 6 big meals a day with lean meats (fish,chicken,pork,beef), no wheat, quinoa, brown rice, vegetables, broccoli and kale. two protein shakes with egg whites. Hitting 3500-4000 calories a day when bulking, on cycle.
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AnonAlso, I would like to add...If you're still sitting on that high of a BF%, some major adjustments need to be done with your diet. Gains are 80% diet 10% hard work, and once you've hit that plateau, 10% steroids.
Same goes for your friend with 23% BF.. you might be running into more issues with a cycle likee this until you get that # down. Send me a friend request and PM if you have any diet related questions, its my field.
As for anything else.....listen to Tread.
AnonIts your second cycle bro....whats the need to run like 6 different compounds?
As for your friend...Diet, a test cycle of "Test" to monitor adversities and reactions, As tread said...clean diet.
Yeah Im deff with these guys specially with the tren bro shit serious think your playing with fire with test then that shits volcanic test is 100/100 tren is 500/500 keep it simple I can see uping the e up to the 600 and using the anavar plus nessasary tools on hand. grow into your cycles. I know its hard I fight the urge all the time to wanna add a compound now or the next cycle. Although I did bring dbol into the mix love that shit but besides the point. Keep it simple study your body while on these. As for your buddy I say listen to Tread-m bro dont know much about losing weight lol.... Good luck
AnonI am gonna jump on Tread's train with keept it very simple. You are new to gear and by having multiple compounds you have NO idea how your body has reacted to any one of them by itself.. How will you ever know what works best for you if you muddied the water with several compounds? How will you know which compounds gave you which side effects? answer is you don't and you won't. The game here is to do the most with the least.. it isn't about how fancy or how many compounds... I would never recommend starting a newbie anything other than a first cycle with TEST that's it period. Your DIET and TRAINING are 90% of your gains and the GEAR is an AID to help you do what you otherwise can't achieve natty.
tread-mLets startt with your friend and do bhim a huge favor with some tough love. He has proven he is not ready for gear with the body fat and needs maybe a little clen to heat it up and get in shape. Bring that body fat down through hard work in the kitchen, which is the disclipline you need to begin with, and hit some good hard work in the gym. When he gets those bf numbers down 6 or 7 points then he starts the right way with a test only cycle and probably considers hrt at his age to turn that clock back a bit. The habits you need on gear are also the habits you need off gear and the kitchen is the most important part of the entire goal, be a good friend and drill that in his head. As for you, you started all wrong of course so at this point I'm thinking we dial you back in and let you get your own bf straight through a little harder work in the kitchen and gym. Second cycle and having done the first wrong I would get the tren out of your head and quit expecting the compounds to the work you should be doing. I would personally run a test only 500 mg split 1-12 with anavar split 40mg ed weeks 1-8 and 80mg weeks 9-12 with adex "on hand" then proper standard pct. An hcg jump is fine but I wouldnt necessarily run the duration. IMO. Just dial yourself back a little brother and dial in the hard work to get this bf down. Do this work, and motivate your friend a?ong with you so you guys can succeed. You can still make lean mass gains here while cutting the fat even if there is not a net gain. Your goal should be net gain pertaining to muscle as I think it is. As to the ghrp6 and cjc1295, yes they work well together and will help with your specific goals. One has a half of about 6 or 8 hrs (ghrp6) and the other is a half of about a week being a similar pep in goal and so the lonjg and the short play well together. These are compounds I might add to a second timer who came in the game all wrong. They will help with your goal and again, big eating on very lean meat such as lean fish, lean chicken and lean red such as filet mignon.
AnonExcellent write TM :-)
As always, smart, eductaed advice. I hope people on this board know how valuable you are! Keep it up!
Nasty81Natewell said Tread
i would keep it down to 12 weeks, it should still yield impressive results. but its better to be safe than sorry. you gotta be careful when you play with fire.
Any suggestions on how to trim the cycle? Like just cut off the last 2 weeks?
Not cycle related, but I would hope the gent at 23% BF is really (REALLY...at 46 years old) prioritising cardio in his workout. 46 isn't a good age to have almost a quarter of your body comprising fat. That needs addressing pronto.
fair point x2