posted Mon, 08/04/2014 - 03:22
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First tren cycle
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Hey community! I am looking to mix tren into a cycle for the first time. I have done 5 test cycles over the past 4 years and am ready to step it up. I'm looking to do just a basic test tren cycle. I'm looking for advise for dosage and pct recommendations seeing tren shuts you down so hard. Accetate or enanthate ester not sure which one I should go with.
My stats are
5'5 165# 10% bf 25 yes old
I won't be starting until I get everything and my body is 100% ready with diet and bf. I want to be a little lower before I start.
I lift 5 xs a week and 1 day cardio
Thank you all for the input.
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I have definitely decided no tren and to go with rusty hookers set up with the prop mast var. Thanks guys
Short and sweet bro;
NO
25 and tren , ???? Bro im in this going on 4 years , and just stepped up a few cycles , which I wont get into , but 25 ,you dont need tren you have only ever done test , you have no experience , and in not blasting you. Regroup and slow it down and follow protocal , no tren , garanteed waste right now , not to mention a hand bag of sides , pege
Wait you went from wanting to take the most harsh steroid known to man to a Var only cycle? It seems you are not even close to ready for steroids. Listen to the more experienced guys on here they have been at this for a very long time. So be thankful for having them and do yourself a favor and listen to everything they have to say it will save you big time in the long run.
These are questions you should have the answers to stone cold before even entertaining the thought of tren. The fact that you do not know typical dosages and proper pct tells me that you aren't ready for tren. I would step back , rethink your plan and do more research before jumping into a compound that can pose many risks and at the very least some side effects that really aren't all that pleasant..
RustyhookerNo var only cycles bud. Maybe gear is nit for you.
At your stats FOOD is all you need . Really
AnonBasic tren cycle? Is there a such thing?
Hopefully by now u have changed your mind.... Jus cause u say your 25 doesnt necessarily mean your ready for tren
You can step it up without tren
I kinda like rustys idea
Ya I'm not doing tren now. I'm looking for info on a anavar only cycle 50mg 8 weeks? Good or bad
Ok question. How about a var only cycle 50mg for 8 weeks? I'm getting mixed reviews on forums. But the results that I'm reading are exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks guys.
So this cycle rocommended? I have no problem not using tren. Honestly I don't want to. But I know it works.
Prop/mast p/var . Solid cycle. Food dictates goals. 8points to pin or more. Spotinjection.com
1-8 mast p 150eod
1-6 prop 150eod
7-8 prop 100eod
2-8 var 50-75
Or Ed pins at 75/75....75/50
Last 2 Weeks test is lower to drop water n let var finish ya hard. Var boosts strength nicely! But kills appetite so if gains are to be made then dial the diet.
Ai on hand as/if necessary. Pct 2 days after last pins. Aro pct is nice.
I ran the above. It's straightforward. Eat and grow.
Strength. I dont advise max lifts on cycle.
RustyhookerYessir. It's a sweet simple run. Mast blended with prop should be no pip. Click my avi...pip forum if you need help.
Aro pct
Clomid 100....100...50...50
Nolva 20...20...10...10
Aro....6.25...6.25...6.25....6.25
Carlos danger created that pct and i did like it. Ai/pct forums...top stickied ones. He's a smart dude!
You don't feel that's to much mast?
RustyhookerBasically it ends up a 600/600 enanthate by weight. You can lower to 125/125 short Esters. Saw palmetto for prostate. Clean foods.
Thanks everybody
No such thing as a basic Tren cycle. Hooker has you covered. One thing-look at your dad and his dad... Are they both bald. If so keep an eye on the hair line with mast-40 year old bald guys are considered confident and sexy, 25 year old bald guys are considered creepy skinheads...
Thick hair!
RustyhookerTren is a bag of suprises :(. Happy, aggro, introverted, paranoid....ugh.
Oh I know, I was not by any means suggesting Tren over the other run. My first suggestion to every Tren question is throw it away, unless they are an advanced user, in which case I am not qualified to offer help or suggestions anyway. I don't think anyone should run that shit unless they compete and even then it's crapshoot as to wether or not they turn into a fucken psyco. I'll take the hairloss all day. I love Mast!
RustyhookerSorry boss. Typing didnt translate. Agree with your thinking. So many easier ways to hit those goals. +2
Ya bro, for myself and anyone close to me, its been nothing but a horror story with tren.
RustyhookerMidget power!
Don't mess with tren at your age/stats. Whats your goals? Im 5-4 & near 200.
Strength and definition
RustyhookerI read your prior forums that pinning eod was hard? That still true? Can go long or short Esters. List your priors.
I got over that. I prefer not to pin as much like I'm sure most dont. But I don't mind anymore as long as gear is smooth. Which I know what gear works for me. No pip anytime.
RustyhookerProp/mast p/var . Solid cycle. Food dictates goals. 8points to pin or more. Spotinjection.com
1-8 mast p 150eod
1-6 prop 150eod
7-8 prop 100eod
2-8 var 50-75
Or Ed pins at 75/75....75/50
Last 2 Weeks test is lower to drop water n let var finish ya hard. Var boosts strength nicely! But kills appetite so if gains are to be made then dial the diet.
Ai on hand as/if necessary. Pct 2 days after last pins. Aro pct is nice.
I ran the above. It's straightforward. Eat and grow.
Strength. I dont advise max lifts on cycle.
Aro pct? Looks like a solid cycle.
RustyhookerI dont go below 8 reps but a 5x5 is common for strength. I prefer drops, pyramids etc. When i can't do 8reps...drop and hit it again.
Warm joints prior and stretch post workout.
I never go below 12 reps and thats heavy!...... imagine what poundage i could shift if i did this low rep power crap that everybody seems to think is THE way these days.
i.e...... Incline bench....... 150kg for 5x12
Some of these youngsters that think they are "on it" couldnt move that for their 3/4 rep power set lol....... and thats after they have chomped their way through 100mg var 100mg Halo... lmfao!!
RustyhookerAgree! I like drops and pyramids. If i can't push 8 then drop weight. I don't have a spotter so i try for volume.
I think my shoulder just tore thinking about it.
I just cannot wrap my head around why a wannabe Bodybuilder would persist in doing all the one rep thick core building stuff?........... thick cores , tendons, and torn ligaments dont go hand in hand with aesthetics .. real power should be utilised into working and stressing the the targeted muscle belly............ ugly movements with ugly form create ugly bodies imo.
I stopped doing one rep max during my second cycle. My buddy I was lifting with made a huge mistake when he slammed the hooks back in on the smith, he was disappointed he didn't complete 370# press. Them hooks bounced right out and the bar come down, hard! Luckily he only suffered some bad bruising and a cracked rib.
That for me was when I realized I am just fine with doing my max reps at a comfortable 315.
Incline press I am only doing 225 right now. I have had recurring shoulder pain the last couple PCT's so this time I am trying to prevent that.
Doing one max reps are essential occasionally, it focuses every muscle fiber into contraction; allowing for more tissues to be broken down and to be rebuilt stronger and thicker. Not only do I recommend one rep max but I emphasize the use of negativities. Negatives in my opinion propagate more growth than one rep max; these tools are to be utilized only occasionally not on a weekly bases, confusing the muscle and overloading the muscle does wonders for overall mass development. I'm not interested in athletics alone, but strength as well.
I couldn't even tell you what 1rep max I could achieve in any lift. I never bother and have no interest in finding out.
RustyhookerLast time i maxed was about 1990? It was killing my shoulders. After switching from super heavy to sets/reps i started getting thicker.
It's got to be 12+ years for me! possibly even more. In light of recent events it won't be something I'll be revisiting!
MIGHTY MIDGETS IN THA HOUSE!
RustyhookerStill trying to catch you. You're in beast mode!
Lol @ midget power.
X2 on the tren.
Well looks like that went to shit real quick. Thanks everyone for the attempt to help. Next time I post I'll be sure my stats are correct. I apologize to all that wants to help but feel I'm lying. I want good info. Why would I lie about my stats and previous cycles? I don't want to harm my body. I lift and cycle by the book and have hormone panels ran after..
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Alright bro, the info in your stats does not match the info in your post. I'm not doing this again. I'm out. Your stats say your are 24 now you are claiming 25 to get information from us.
So, what does that mean, you started when you were 19? No help from me bro
I haven't been on here in a while and did not update stats. I apologize. And it was 5 in 4 years. I didn't realized I typed wrong on my phon. I did my first cycle at 21.
If someone thinks it's to soon I'm open to all options. I just want that jacked hard look. And be strong as hell.
Previous cycles all include test. But I have added to the different cycles d bol, winstrol, eq, masteron and anavar.. Not together but those are the substances I've used over time. I have had great results with all. My goals from this cycle is just to be ripped and strong. Yes I know the side effects. There not great. A lot of my buddys have done it with great results But I know my body and have done my research. I wanted cycles of test under my belt before attempting tren. I was thinking 400 tren 600 test. 10 weeks.
How long and how much Test did you use in your previous cycles? What were your results?
What is your goal for this Tren cycle? How long a Tren run are you considering?
I also don't think that a 5th cycle is the time to do Tren but I'm not your father.
How much do you know about Tren sides?
If you answer here we can help you
There's nothing basic about a tren cycle man. I don't think it's a good idea to go from only running test cycles straight to tren. There's a lot of other options out there that should be used first.