posted Mon, 02/27/2012 - 19:07
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First Test E (600mg) only Cycle advice plz~
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27 yo, been lifting 8 years hardcore, 188 pound,5"8, 13 % body fat.
Here is my plan:
Week 1 - 12 : Test E(300mg, twice per week, mon and thursday)
Week 14- 18 : Liquid Nolva + Liquid Clomid
I have Arimidex on hand also..
Please tell me the good dosage for PCT.
Is it really necessary to run both clomid and nolva?? I see many people going clomid only pct and I hear they had good results.
Also is it really that necessary to run arimidex through out the cycle???
I see bunch of people saying that I should run it and other people saying that it will hinder my gains, and now im toally confused.
Also what is my expected gains??
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Alright.. I just decided to go with 500 each week and see how my body goes...I can always up the dosage in next cycle anyway...Wish me luck people!!
this sounds like my future cycle!
cant wait..
To me I would recommend using both Nolvadex+Clomid, as clomid brings back your natural Test levels alot faster, and Nolvadex..it simply prevents gyno AKA man tits. so yeah run those two bad boys together! its like the foundations of a PCT.
maybe try 40/40/20/20 for Nolvadex and Clomid, 150/150/100/50? I'm not sure about dosages, hopefully someone will correct me!
HAahaa yea...I might die from that dosage of clomid tho lol
Aha yea go Nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50
600mg seems aweful high. what will your nexrt cycle be 800 then 1,000? start at 300 - 400 mg of real pharm test for first cycle
I think he is fine at 600mg week Iv had buddies run that same cycle few times and still get great results each and Everytime.
Yea maybe...
mick118Should be a good mate.
Takes 3-4 weeks for me to really notice the test e, so be patient. Is why I usually kickstart a cycle.
I would take both nolva + clomid for PCT. A very small % of people get no natural test boost off clomid so you are better off taking both to be sure to restore test levels.
Get bloodwork done to check levels before and after.
IMO one should always run both nolva and clomid for pct, like i always say, if it can help with your recovery why not. As far as adex, you can choose to hold of until you see any sides or you can run it threw out at a low dose like .25mg eod.
Your pct dosage should look something like this:
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Thanks for the comment BB..Yea I heard some estrogen is needed in the body in order to build quality muscle, and get the libido.. Adex only when gyno sides occurs it is...
Thanks everyone for the replies!!
tread-mHave you ran a panel to check pre-cycle levels. If so what was your estradial? Estrogen level helps determine your need for adex or aromasin to start. If estrogen is high then sex hormone binding globulin is likely high and those things in combination hinder gains. If you don't run bloods you are somewhat blind in terms of exact guidance. Not everyone does so not the end of the world but it is a good idea, particularly for a newr user who has less understanding of their own situation in terms of levels. It also allows you to understand how effective your gear is if you choose to do on cycle bloods a few weeks later.
theres been alot of discussion lately about the benefits of clomid, I personally would advise using it to help restart natty, and I would run it 100/100/50/50/